Ramblings of a Restless Mind

07 Restless Ramblings
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Jen: [00:00:00] What's up Ramblers? Hello? Hello? Hello. It is Friday Eve thirsty. Thursday, EV It is not Friday Eve. It is Friday. Friday. That's the kind of day I've been having guys. Hello. Hello.

welcome to another episode of Ramblings of a Restless Mind. I am Jen, 50% of this hosting situation. Joined my, joined by my Wonderful Life wife, [00:01:00] which has just stuck ever since.

That one episode. I said it, we said it to other people in the world with, I think they're confused. They're like, wait, does she really mean wife or I love, I love the looks though.

DeJah: Yeah. Wait. I was like, yeah, that's my life wife. And they're like, what? What , what is that?

Joe Woolworth: People are so scared of not knowing the needs.

Are they just, they're like, yeah, Lifewise. But the thing is likes I know all about that.

DeJah: A joke, right? Yeah. Like there's no, like any, but people are like, oh, do I take this seriously? Yeah. Like, is this okay?

Jen: Okay. Yeah. Lifewise, I said it. Um. We went to a, we go to yoga classes all the time together. We go to the same studio,

And I went out there to go grab blocks or something and I was like, oh yeah. I was like, deja is my life wife. She's already in there. I'm grabbing blocks for her. And they both busted out laughing. They enjoyed it, they appreciated it. . So anyway, so here we are. Deja is your, is your name by the way? Not just life.

Lifewise. .

DeJah: Thank you. Not just a title.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: How are you, how are you doing on this lovely Friday. Oh, fantastic. Good to, good to be back. . The uh, old podcasting [00:02:00] studio here. I know it seems like it's been a while. Yeah, it's been a beat. But again, for all you out there not having done this, we batch them, right?

Mm-hmm . So then now we're regrouping and .

Jen: Yeah, it's always fun to, I always love going back and listening to our episodes, one 'cause we're funny as fuck, like , at least to us. No, and Joe, you've become a favorite in, in some of our recurring listeners here. My,

DeJah: my serial killer soul brother.

Listen, I just gotta tell you like you. You really are part of the tribe. I, I hope you understand that. The high praise that is .

Jen: Yes, absolutely. Uh, my brother, he's very kind. My brother, for one, he was like, man, I just like Joe, the things that he just, one liners he drops in there and I'm like, cool. Me too.

Also, he makes all the techie things happen, so we appreciate that. Oh Yeah. You know, I was driving home from something the other day and I decided that I would like to start living my life with the level of confidence that Canadian geese have crossing a very busy road. Oh. Yes. Like they stop traffic [00:03:00] and I, I respect it.

I, I stop every time. I don't care how busy it is. I would

DeJah: like you to know that is already how I, across the street, , I just throw up an arm like I'm a New Yorker, , slapping hoods, .

Jen: But I just, I want that to. Yeah. I, I want that confidence in my life. Mm-hmm . And that, that those are goals for me now. But yeah, so I don't know.

I dunno where, where we are today, what we're doing, , but we made it to March. I wish, I wish you this energy channeling the geese. Thank you. Yes, thank you. I, when I was driving, they, there were like two or three of them and they were just stopped on the, they were waiting. Like, we're gonna wait until it's busy as it can get, and then we're gonna start walking and they're just gonna stop for us.

DeJah: I also think I'm, as I'm aging, embracing the personality of a goose because they're mean as fuck . Like I think that the older I get, the less shits I have and the more goose like I become. Yeah. Yes. Mm-hmm . I like it. Yeah, ,

Joe Woolworth: they do have a very strong, I don't care vibe, don't they? Yes.

DeJah: Yes. Absolutely. I noticed that they [00:04:00] are scared

Joe Woolworth: of motorcycles, almost like it's like an appropriate sized predator.

Loud, loud

DeJah: pipe. Save geese.

Joe Woolworth: They will , they'll leave when I'm on a motorcycle, but if I'm in a car, they're like, yo, you got time? Yep.

Jen: Oh, Joe, you drive a motorcycle. Yes. Things you learn about Joe. I got a couple

Joe Woolworth: of different ones.

Jen: Oh. Oh, okay. Depends

Joe Woolworth: on how much I wanna run over a goose ,

Jen: which one I, maybe I should change that to.

I wanna be like Joe, when I grow up.

DeJah: Again, my serial killer soul Brother, brother, me, serial peace

Jen: killer. Oh man. And I had, so the last episode, if you've been following along and all the journey with this was all about vampire tropes. And afterwards I had people that had listed the episode and be like, this was the, this is actually why, like when we were talking about like the tri bread in the legacies, spinoff show from the Vampire Diaries and the originals. Like how she became a tribe rid and like I was getting all the, and I was like, listen, when you're on the spot, you can't think of everything. Oh, okay. I know. And

DeJah: like we, but we crammed so much information we did into that tiny [00:05:00] shirt. Did. I was like, it was, it was fire.

'cause we were just like, but we were all in it. Right. Thank you Eunice. Excellent. Yes. Excellent suggestion. That was a great question. Are awesome. Yep,

Jen: yep. Man, it was, it, it really was. and, and one that I, I'm, listen, we're not gonna go down the rabbit hole again, but one that I forgot that had me laughing, thinking about it after the fact was Vampire in Brooklyn with Eddie Murphy because me and my brother and sister-in-law were hanging out this past weekend and we were talking about that movie and now I really wanna watch it again because it's just so funny.

So, I mean, it's Eddie Murphy like.

DeJah: It's great. Oh, I just took my boys, we went and saw the Golden Child. They played it at the Alamo, and I was like, this is the best thing ever to have them watch a movie that came out when I was a kid. , but classic Eddie Murphy. Yeah, right. And of course, classic, you know, eighties style.

Body exposure. Yeah. . not the same. The number of times I've had to like jump up and try to like put my body in front of the tv 'cause I've forgot about how many boobs there were gonna be in the movies I saw as a child. Like, yeah. Yeah. [00:06:00]

Jen: Anyway, I mean we've been talking about. Bodies in her forties recently.

Yeah. I haven't quite hit there, but I feel like all the things are already starting to happen. , I was

DeJah: just over here paving the way for

Jen: you, man.

DeJah: Yeah, . Well,

Jen: I was, we were talking about it recently. We were talking about how like we started off new year. We were like, all right, we went, we went a little hard in the paint on adult ve and eating whatever the hell we wanted to.

Like calories don't count. Probably like the last half of last year, and so, you know. New year happened. We didn't really set a luge over resolution like we were gonna go get real fit or anything. But we did start like getting yoga back into our lives regularly and being a little more mindful. We were eating and I did dry January, I did it, the ship sailed.

It was good. But now I'm on a different boat that does include alcohol and I like it. I feel much better. And I know that you feel better as well. Mm-hmm . But on the scale it says we're heavier and I'm just not okay with that information. .

DeJah: Okay. So again. Please call in if you also suffer from lead and [00:07:00] bone syndrome, , it has nothing to do with the size

Jen: of our fat size.

DeJah: It is in fact, lead and bone syndrome . Yep.

Jen: That's what we're going with. I like it. I like this theory. Of course, my, my supportive family's like, oh, well you've been, you know, more muscle. And that's, you know what, that's what I'm gonna go with. Sure. Wink got up, right. But then I, I got on a, a, I had a virtual meeting today, and the girl, the first thing she said to me was like, how much weight have you lost?

And I was like, none. But I love you, . Thank you.

DeJah: Yeah, no, I loved her. A really honest moment and I was like, Jenna, I just, I know you'll be honest with me. Do I look like I'm because I, none of this makes sense in my mind, but then I just realized that that's just menopause and aging. So Yep. Here we're, every, every woman out there been through it is like, yes.

Yes. ,

Jen: whatever. Oh, man. Well, speaking of things that are really healthy what you sipping on over there?

DeJah: So this is a cider. That is pretty common. , it's the old [00:08:00] Angry Orchard brand, but it's a, it's a light crisp one, so it has little less calories and it's not, I don't like Sweet, so

Jen: I know. Yeah. She tell folks about your platform that you want to start at, at restaurants and bars make outsiders,

Oh,

DeJah: yeah. You know, everybody like caters to people with like gluten allergies and stuff. Well, how about little old me with my barley and hops allergy ? I would like to see a cider and or wine option everywhere I go. I'm just saying. I wanna drink and have fun too. Just pop one in there for, for little old me

Yeah, .

Jen: Everywhere we went recently they've had this super sweet or like fruity cider, and she's like, were they like

DeJah: dumping all these flavors? And some of 'em taste like cough syrup. And I was like, who decided this was good?

Jen: No. Yeah. Well because I do love my life, wi Life wife so much. I drink her portion of beer as well, since she is allergic to it.

You're so good to me. . I try. So we, we thought that we would start, we would share our love for our different drinks with the world a little bit. So I, I got, I'm trying to get things that [00:09:00] I've never had before and keep it local. I'm currently sipping on transparency IPA in . You know, since we'd like to be transparent on the show too, I don't know.

Mm-hmm . Anyway, and it is from the Glass Jug Beer lab. Nice. Nice. Outta Durham. Nice. So Yeah. Not an ad, but hey, we can turn it into one if you wanna sponsor us. . Yeah.

DeJah: And I promised I'll also taste it, tell you how much I like it, and then not drink another one. . Yeah. Yeah. Man, it hurts my heart because I do, I love beer. That's not the problem. doesn't love me. But yeah, so those are fine beverages for things .

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. So I was, you know, all, all of the thoughts. So I have a question for you, deja and Joe, obviously that goes without saying.

Do you guys have any like. There's a thing you see like my toxic trait is blah, blah, blah. Do you, do you have like a behavior or like a, maybe even a habitual behavior that like, you know, that you could fix, but like you still do it anyway.

Joe Woolworth: I got one that came to mind [00:10:00] instantly. Oh yeah.

Jen: Shoot. Being a man, I'm just kidding.

Joe Woolworth: in part cause I think this is very stereotypical that it's true of most men. I'm a baby when I get sick, like I'm. Intolerable and I could fix it. ,

Jen: if your wife's listening, she's like, yeah, you could, like, she's been dealing with that shit for 26 years, right? Yep. Yep.

DeJah: Toxic. So like maybe don't just straight eat the Nutella out of the jar.

Oh. Like I could

Jen: stop that , but it's so good and so easy. You just got the handheld size Nutella jar. Yeah, I know you got it. Me

DeJah: started on it. Listen, just passing addictions along.

Jen: I think mine is an . This affected me a bit getting over here too, is that I always think I have more time than I do before I need to leave. Mm. And because I glance at the clock and I'm like, oh, I've still got an hour before [00:11:00] I need to leave. And the next thing I know, poof, 55 minutes of that is gone. You know what I mean?

So like that happened today 'cause I literally texted to Dasia to make sure that she had eaten .

DeJah: So good to me again. Yeah. Yeah.

Jen: And And I was like, oh, I got, you know, as I'm eating. And she's like, oh yeah, and, and I'm, I'm heading out ready to, you know, I'm, I'm leaving ahead to the, to the studio.

And I was like, oh, cool. And I was like, damn, she's leaving super early. She's gonna be there so early. Then I looked to see what time it was, and I was like, oh. And then it was mad Dash around the house to like, yeah, throw stuff together, hop in the car. And then of course there was traffic on the highway.

So here we are. But that happens to me all the time. And I could fix it. I could just stop doing that. I could leave earlier and I just won't, and I don't know why.

DeJah: I, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's one of those little things I get I get weed warp a lot, , so I, I like way prepared. Please explain to someone who's

Jen: not a frequent partaker, so

DeJah: you will accomplish 8 million things in five minutes, but think it, like an hour has passed and all of a sudden you're like, [00:12:00] oh, well, shit, that was only five minutes.

I got so much time. Now , like, so I, I tend to like prepare like way ahead because I know like I'm gonna be in a panic. Like, oh my God, I forgot. What time is it? Oh, no, I still have three hours. Okay. . So, but yeah.

Jen: Yeah. I mean, listen, I had, I was dressed and ready and like everything except for like throwing like in my water, getting the beers and took a little snack for the road.

And uh, I, so I was like, oh, I got plenty of time. And so I started, was doing something with work. I was troubleshooting an an issue and had to put in like a support ticket and stuff. And I was just like, oh, I got this. I did not. In fact, I was, I was telling the person, I was like, oh. I was like, I'm sorry James.

I, I'll look forward to that ticket in my email. I gotta go. Bye, .

DeJah: Yep, that's that. Well, that's my main thing is I'll get just sucked into work. Right. I'm just like down the rabbit hole and I haven't pulled my head up to look at what time it is. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely, definitely fall pre to that .

Jen: Oh man.

Well, speaking of rabbit holes, let's see what is in store for our rabbit hole discussion today. We have another [00:13:00] list. In her voicemail, I'm loving the people are doing this. Feel

DeJah: free to leave us voicemails and suggestions. Your people are doing a great job, . Yeah. Yeah. .

Jen: Yeah, absolutely. Again, it's in the outro of the podcast, but I, I realize sometimes you guys probably, a lot of times you guys don't make it till you don't listen to the outro.

the number is 9 1 9 2 9 5 0 5 7 8. You can find it on our website. find it on our Instagram rams of a Restless Sign pod there for Instagram. The number's there give us a call. Like I said last time, it does not actually ring through to anyone. It will go straight to voicemail. We get that and we don't listen to it ahead of time.

We play it. I, I have not listened. Last time I listened to one of 'em. This time we haven't listened to this and we like to have that authentic response that might bite us in the ass at some point, but, oh, you know what? This one

DeJah: might,

Jen: this one might as Joe's over there. , I take it. You've listened. You know what?

You can just be our screener, .

Joe Woolworth: It's it's gonna be either a very fun conversation or a short one. You ready? Alright.

Jen: Cannot wait. Let's do this

Caller: here we. [00:14:00] My son posed an interesting fact to my wife and I the other day, that a certain breed of hyena, the females have what's called a pseudo penis. So I'm gonna leave you guys with that, figure that out.

But here's the other thing that, that Eunice wonderfully came up with. She said, so where is it in nature that there's no mammal that has the ability to be both sexist. Huh? I thought it was against biology. Yeah, that was her thought. So she obviously was being sarcastic, but yeah. Very interesting.

Look it up. A pseudo penis on a hyena. Enjoy. I look forward to

DeJah: hearing you guys talk about it. I'm soci excited about this subject because I used to teach, I teach a lesson on this , because humans can reproduce [00:15:00] a sexually, we can contain both male and female organs and it has happened. It's her Manford dite, right?

Correct. You can self impregnate, so it's absolutely possible. Yeah. That's crazy. In the same way that amphibians can change sex or seahorses can change sex. In order to continue the species, right, if there's something ecologically that occurs or there's not enough in overpopulation, one or the other, like typically like humans, right?

We choose more females than males, but absolutely. Look at like, have you ever gone to the science museum and looked up at the uh, whale, whale skeletons? Yes. And they've got their little pseudo feet. Oh yeah. They, they're so cute. They're so tiny. Right? Oh, I, for, I forget the scientific term, but it's a, it's a body part, just like our little, our pinky toe that's devolving.

It's not going to, in the same way that we actually have a tail. Right. Our cox is toxics, excuse me, is technically a tail.

Jen: Yeah. In the sa Yeah.

DeJah: So the, the fact [00:16:00] that, and technically our . Clitoris, if I'm allowed to say that is, is actually a, the head of the gentleman to, to

Jen: explain what that is and where it is.

And I'm just kidding. ,

DeJah: listen, follow us online, we're gonna put out a map.

Jen: I'm, so, I, first of all, I love you for your science mind, and, and knowing that, and, and obviously this is being taught in, in the . The caller's son's class. Mm-hmm . In science, which is great. It's amazing biology and but when I first heard that , maybe I'm just salty as fuck, but I would just heard pseudo penis.

I was like, oh, like so many men, you know, . So I definitely went that route instead of the actual scientific possibility. Yes,

DeJah: yes.

Jen: Apparently it is the female spotted hyena is the only Yes. Ex extent mammal that mates and gives birth through a pendulous penis like clitoris, clitoris, clitoris, wing, you know, tomato, tomato,[00:17:00]

DeJah: Fascinating. So that's a, that's a variant. Vir, like vaginal canal. Right? That's a whole different set. Yeah,

Jen: this is, this is okay. A female spotted hyenas. I'm fact checking Google. So like it's gotta be true, right? I believed Liam instantly. Yeah. A female spotted hyenas. Pseudo penis is a large, thick and phallic structure that resembles a male penis.

It's a result of female. Are they single

DeJah: What a luxurious definition. .

Jen: Oh man. It's a result of a female masculinization. Never heard that word. Mm-hmm . In my eyes, were kind of deceiving me with all those letters. A process that causes a female genitalia to appear more like male genitalia. Mm-hmm .

DeJah: You see it in like bonobo monkeys. They're part of their social interaction is actually

Masturbation Yeah. Of each other. And they can, yeah, like there's body dysmorphism, like, you [00:18:00] know, where males are typically larger, but you can have other body parts that become larger and just an adaptation of, again, like that environment and that social structure. And I'm, I'm proud of those female hyenas.

For rocking that. Rocking that dong. Yes.

Jen: hyena, hyena pee. We called it pee in the last episode. Hyen Pee Hy.

Joe Woolworth: It's going on the merch. .

Jen: Man,

Joe Woolworth: I wasn't brave enough to Google it, but I did pop it in the chat. GPT and it says that. They're about seven inches long. These pseudo penises again. Oh, respect. Are they single

Jen: I feel like an email

DeJah: listeners just like, damn. I mean, that's, yeah, again, nature is fascinating, but the ability for, so there are so many transgender species. It's legit. Why is this so hard for people? Oh man. Some people, not all, man. Yeah, yeah. It exists in nature. In the same way that, again, go back to the Bonobos, how they [00:19:00] have female relationships, right?

They're long, many, many, many years lasting, like, and that's just part of sexual engagement between females, sexual engagement between males and males, like it's normal. Mm-hmm . Normal. Yeah,

Jen: I just, yeah. Which is, you know, we don't necessarily have to go down this whole rabbit, I mean, or we can, it's, it's up to us.

Which the beauty of it about the, it's very timely conversation, obviously, with all of the doomy bullshit going on in the world right now. Thanks to a particular administration that was elected um, state of the Union, you know, around the whole, the conversation around like transgender, and this is my biggest que aside from like getting into the nitty gritty of it, is like

Who cares who somebody wants to be? Yes. Or identifies as like, who cares? Let them be like, it doesn't affect you. It doesn't change your life. Like, let somebody be. We're

DeJah: we're talking about less than 3% of the population, so this is like a rabbit hatred of such a marginalized, tiny group [00:20:00] that you don't, you don't like.

You don't ha if you live in an area where you don't wanna be exposed to that, you are never exposed to it. Yeah. I mean, no, they're not . I didn't like this concept that I, I loved that there's just drag show parades just rolling through every town, exposing it to all your children's . I wish, but

Jen: no , right?

Yeah. And it's a part of history, like way back in the day, way, way, way. You wanna talk about history like

DeJah: normal?

Jen: Yes, absolutely. Normal

DeJah: human behavior.

Jen: And let, oh, and let's talk about let's take it back to spirit week in school and stuff. When it was like gender bender day, what do you think that is?

Okay. If it was just a day for school spirit and that's how you justified it. But that's the same thing. Like, so it's, it's, and I, the people that are all I

DeJah: gotta say is bosom buddies, . Come on now, like, and it was okay, and nobody lost their minds. There's so many different times that we've seen those characters, right?

We've seen those people [00:21:00] in our just, I don't know, just generally going into politics around our country and, and the, the fact that it's just like made to be such a crazy extreme, like new woke . Mm. Oh my God. It's like, oh, oh my gosh. It's been everywhere. Always. Yes. . I dunno what else to tell you. Like some people are like, what

Jen: the, the argument of, well, I don't care what, I automatically go to a southern accent whenever, you know, but like, I don't care who you are.

You know what you do. Just don't shove it in my face. Nobody's shoving it in your face. You just feel some kind of way about it. You feel fragile or threatened by the whole situation that's they're having it

DeJah: shoved in their face, but it's not by the transgender people. It's being shoved in their face by media platforms like, you know what?

This is a subject that we can make people feel afraid. So if we keep screaming about it, you are gonna ju And they do. And then they parro it and they pair it. And they pair it. And that's all we're at. We're at this place of millions of people parroting again about. Two to 3% of the population. . Yeah. It's a weird phenomenon, but you know, the game of [00:22:00] telephone is super cool.

Yeah.

Jen: like, well, and, and you know, in my . Thoughts about around, I mean, there's, there's a lot of thoughts around it, but one thing that I always try to, because you can get in con in conversations with folks that do not see the same point of view, and that's okay. That's what makes the world go round and that's what makes it interesting.

'cause if we all thought the same way, holy shit, it'd be a boring world. But. Just because what I always like to say, and, and I've, I've said this to a few folks as a way of like trying to bridge that gap or, or maybe even start to build a bridge, is that like, just because you may not necessarily quote unquote understand it, or that it's not your experience doesn't mean.

It's invalid because it's somebody else's, like, right? So try to step outside of your own box, your own perspective through somebody else's lens. And that just because you will never know what it, what it feels like to maybe be born a female, but identify more masculine traits or, or pre feel more comfortable presenting that way.

Does not make it wrong, it just means that they're different than you and what's wrong [00:23:00] than being different, like absolutely nothing. So. Well, that's the problem.

DeJah: Yeah. 'cause you live in an a little ethnocentric identity that everyone is supposed to be exactly like you and think the same way as you, and believe in the same way as you.

And if you don't fall in any of those boxes, then you must be feared. Yeah. Must be feared. And which is sad because that's what you can learn from. And I would just like to say to all of our . Native American and indigenous peoples here stand fucking strong on your reservation because two spirits are real and the administration can kiss my white ass.

Jen: Yes, agreed. So clearly Deja and I hear at ramblings of a restless mind . We are an ally and we are, we are here, we are a safe space. And would love to get some guests that could, could speak to this about this with us and their, their own experiences. We love, we're literally rambling about everything.

Look at Joe's like,

DeJah: well, this could go nowhere. We're like, . Two and a half hours in . Right. . It's

Jen: like, well, this could be a really long conversation or

DeJah: really short. Yeah. So yeah,

Jen: we, we see you. No, it's a

DeJah: excellent, excellent. Again, it's just back to , just [00:24:00] it's, it is a normal part of our society. So, yeah, we're just embracing something that was always here.

And it feels sad. It feels sad to me that we have to continue to have this conversation. Oh my gosh, I, yeah. One of the gifts I got for Christmas is the magnets says, I can't believe I still have to protest this shit. Oh my God. Like, yeah, . So true. Yeah, so true. [00:25:00] yeah,

Jen: back to Hyen.

Penton,

I mean this, this lady lover's just out there kicking it with all of her little spots and . Fat like structures.

DeJah: So hyenas are fascinating 'cause they're, their, their pelvic bone structures as well is a little different. Like they have really, they're like a higher rise. Yeah. Their body structure is different.

Their, their, their mouth, their jaws, their pollens per square ounce of pressure

Jen: is crazy. I wonder if any of the hyenas in the Lion King were. There was a female hyena there. I wonder if she was anatomically ly correct. Yeah, it was whoopy go. Was she a spotted hyena? Would would Whoopee have had a Hy pee ? I lemme

DeJah: look it up.

You know what, I'm gonna put money down. She would. Yeah, I would. Absolutely. And you know what? I bet. I bet. , seven and a half to eight inches.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah. [00:26:00] also who's been measuring, I'm looking for the picture. Yep, she has spots.

DeJah: Biologists. Biologists. Okay. Zoologists. Yeah, . Well,

Jen: we should ask, we should ask. That is a great teaser for our next episode with with our guest coming up.

But so she does, she is

Joe Woolworth: the, the

Jen: sassy short

Joe Woolworth: tempered female leader of the hyenas. Oh, she definitely had a

Jen: pseudo penis then. Yep.

Joe Woolworth: She didn't have, she didn't have a lot of spots, but there's spots.

Jen: So if you had a pseudo pene for a day, deja mm-hmm . What would you do with it? Anything in particular? Well, I mean,

DeJah: more, I would, would be like, I feel like I get into a dick swinging contest pretty much every day, so I don't know if it would be much different other than just the uncomfortable girth between my legs. I, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, the, the experience of having your . sexual organs on the outside of your body would feel very vulnerable to me.

Jen: I mean, we have, [00:27:00] we have boobs, right? But they're, I guess men can have boobs too. Yeah. But

DeJah: like,

Jen: don't, if

DeJah: you, if you punch me

Jen: in the tit, I'm gonna feel like I, yeah. . That is true. If you're gonna be down for the count a little bit. Just very

DeJah: vulnerable. Very weak to me. . Yeah.

Jen: Yeah, the

DeJah: perhaps too with the other half that has all their stuff on the outside. You're, you're cool just the way you are. , I feel like,

Joe Woolworth: I feel like you'd probably really enjoy a urinal. It's quite an experience.

Jen: It would be kind of cool to stand peeing up. Mm-hmm . It's very to pee standing up mean it's

Joe Woolworth: very efficient.

DeJah: I've, I I have tried, I think we've talked about this, the wien us, right? I've absolutely tried the wiener. 'cause I'm an avid camper, so No. What the fuck is a wiener? Oh. Oh. It allows you to pee. Standing up as a woman. Oh, but you can't have the, the dominant stream that I have .

Jen: Oh, you got, you got a power pee, huh?

I do. I

DeJah: can write cursive, like a mother trucker, .

Jen: I'm gonna test this. The next vacation we go on together. I'm gonna get you drunk enough to text it or test it.

DeJah: [00:28:00] Oh my lord. Going down an infamy perfection in writing.

Jen: Yes. Mm-hmm . I don't, I don't, I think I'd do so I would do something dumb like I'd wanna. I don't dunno if you made donuts, I could stack on it.

Oh. Or something like that. Oh. You know, girl,

DeJah: I'd be strolling around in fucking yoga pants. like the bold. Yeah. Mm. Just John Travolta down the

Jen: street. . You know, it would, what was I watching recently? It was talk. Oh, I was watching uh, the new season of Shorey. Love that show. And I gotta

DeJah: start that up. I love that.

Yeah. And it

Jen: was talking about somebody helicoptering. I, I would definitely do that. Like, I feel like that, like every guy, like

Joe Woolworth: not as fun as it looks. Yeah,

Jen: as fun as it

Joe Woolworth: looks.

Jen: That's

Joe Woolworth: disappointing. No. All right. Well, there's never a practical use in real life for it. . It's never called for. There's never a situation that's like this calls for

DeJah: True[00:29:00]

Jen: Oh my God. That needs to be a condom commercial . Yes. Holy shit.

DeJah: We would love to sponsor you .

Jen: Or we can take it back to the next Bob SpongeBob episode.

DeJah: I've been thinking about Hyena Pen lately. Check out our condom company.

Jen: Oh man. I mean, you know, listen, we joke about it a lot, but, but, you know, good job guys. And, and most of you keeping that in check and, on a daily basis, not hurting yourself. I don't know. True, true.

DeJah: I, that does sound, I, I gotta say like, I really do, do have to give it up. 'cause like, you know, relationships in the past have had a boyfriend like

Sit on your own.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Oh, that's gotta be rough

Jen: because, okay, because you got the pen, but then, then you sit ball, but then you got the, yeah, then you got the, the

DeJah: beans to go with the frank, you know? You know what I mean? Like Yes. Yeah. Yep. Hey, listen, this is us being as sympathetic as possible, .

Jen: Oh, and then like boys in middle school, when the wind blows and everybody [00:30:00] knows just 'cause like you can't, you know what I mean?

Somebody whisper, whisper something halfway flirtatious. And it's

DeJah: true or nothing. No reason, just you're in the. Lunchroom swing .

Jen: Oh

DeJah: God. Precious.

Jen: Yep. Well, speaking of hot dogs, I would like to just bring something to light that Joe and his wife mm-hmm . According to an email I have written communication to.

Okay. To show this to purpose. Evidentiary support. Yes, yes to, they were having the debate about, is a hot dog a sandwich? Mm-hmm . And his wife as I raise my hands in victory agrees with me . Oh. Oh,

Joe Woolworth: okay. She said it was a sandwich. Okay.

Jen: Like, why can it not be a kind of

DeJah: sandwich? Okay. I would like you to send me video if your wife eating five sandwiches.

It's, it's a pseudo sandwich. What? Oh.

Joe Woolworth: And yeah.

DeJah: Doesn't make any less valid.

Joe Woolworth: As we just talked about, , it's banned certain [00:31:00] sporting events. No hot dogs. No, no hot dogs. .

Jen: I'm just, you know, I was talking to a friend about this last weekend and my, I think analogy that I stand on with this is that not all whiskey is

Bourbon. Right? But bourbon is a type of whiskey. So not all sandwiches are hot dogs, but a hot dog can be a type of sandwich.

DeJah: Not all sparkling wine is champagne, but that's true. Only champagne comes from Champagne France. And that's because bourbon is only made in Kentucky, but Exactly. Mm-hmm . So that, just, so

Joe Woolworth: your argument is that hot dog is a sandwiches, a regional argument.

That's what I'm bringing back here. If you're in Kentucky, that's it. Bourbon.

Jen: Right now my hotdog is a sandwich. Argument Is an I. Lonely island. Lonely island of two. Hey, so , you're not alone, but I'm not alone anymore. Joe, what's your wife's name if I may ask? Lori? Lori. Lori, if you're ever, if you ever listen to this.

Thank you sisterhood. [00:32:00] I appreciate that. .

DeJah: I told her my answer. You would like to discuss bun cutting . Give .

Joe Woolworth: I told, I told her my answer that I've never eaten. I don't remember what I said. Five or seven sandwich. And she was like she just looked at me like, you're dumb. . .

Jen: Yeah. Oh, man. Well, anything else you wanna add?

Any random thoughts hitting your brain right now? Ah,

DeJah: man. No. I'm just over here thinking about spotted female high ine

Jen: I'm, I'm still thinking about what I would do if I had a pee for a day. Oh. I probably wouldn't want it for the entire day. Be like, take

DeJah: it back. You know what? I might, you know, I'm thinking maybe like tight pair of wranglers, take up some line dancing

I, I would be remiss. I, you know what? You know why it is, it's because I would instantly be a dog. I would instantly be all over women. Yeah. , I, I'm just full transparency. I would just be sliding up [00:33:00] onto that .

Jen: Right. So I think I, I would be remiss to say that I would, I would want to have sex if I had a pen for a day because Oh yes.

I would just like to know what the other side feels like. Same for science. Yeah. Yeah. , or just for pleasure. It's fine. , we can be sex positive on the show. . ? Very, very, yeah. Oh. Mm-hmm . Yep. All right. Well I'm gonna pose that question to you. You, you know, I don't know if I wanna an ask this question, but I'm going to Joe , what would you do for a day if you had a suit?

Pseudo giant, what do we wanna call it? Pseudo. A jj? Yeah.

Joe Woolworth: I mean, probably the same thing you guys said. I just wanna see what it's like on the other side of it. .

DeJah: Yeah, and, and you know, just, I'm, I'm sure you would enjoy the luxurious feeling of walking free . Just, just strolling around that

Joe Woolworth: it's not nearly as bad as you guys are imagining.

I can't, is it

Jen: because of underwear? Like because of underwear Kind of under protects things under, yeah. [00:34:00] What about guys that free ball? It, they just dumb. Like they

Joe Woolworth: don't, they're stupid. They

DeJah: don't, it's not real. That's not, I never understood about, you know, like the free flowy boxers. Like you're not, you're not helping that any, there's no support.

Joe Woolworth: those guys probably. I'm all about supporting

DeJah: men.

Joe Woolworth: just like underwear.

DeJah: That's right. . Start my own brand

Jen: Oh Lord. Oh man. Well, I, you know what, I, if you're listening to this and any of these questions have tickled your fancy, like what's your toxic trait? it's real toxic, listen, we'll talk about it too. Like what's your toxic, toxic trait? What would you do if you had a Yeah, because honestly, when you're, what's

DeJah: your toxic trait?

And I'm like. Hating on myself, , , like everyone else. Like yes, we are all our worst enemy. Yeah.

Jen: Yeah. Give us a ring, leave us a voicemail. We wanna be here for you. We wanna talk about it. And uh, odds are if you're thinking or feeling that someone else out there is too. So you, facts are not alone.[00:35:00]

And if you do feel that way, well we're here to talk about us, that you don't for sure feel alone. So I think that's it. That, that's gonna wrap it up for this one, guys. Cool. So. You know, think about your toxic traits. Improve them if you can, or be like me and don't

Joe Woolworth: I was just Googling toxic traits.

Have you guys heard of dark empathy? I was just like, what are the top toxic traits? Dark empathy. This is messed up. So dark empathy is a newer concept where individuals possess empathy, but use it to manipulate and harm others. They understand others' emotions yet exploit this awareness for person personal gain.

That's not new .

Jen: No, no. They didn't say new. Just a toxic trait. I know the term. I know. No. Like, Ooh. That sounds like a person. Does not need

DeJah: to be. Sounds like a sounds. Sounds a couple people have dated. It was fair,

Joe Woolworth: dark empathy. Ugh. If you got that one, keep it yourself. .

DeJah: Well, yeah, . So that's a sociopath. Like a psychopath has no empathy.

A sociopath has empathy. Knows that they can wield it. Right? They have no personal feeling of guilt, but no other people [00:36:00] will suffer emotion.

Jen: So is 'cause I, we talked about the show Dexter that you guys both love. Mm-hmm . So is he ? He would, he understood what the emotions were. He just didn't feel them. So he would like, I know.

Well, he

DeJah: had to learn, right? Yeah. So he literally had to, like, the whole premise is that he is basically trained to be a human. . .

Joe Woolworth: Yeah. There were, there were probably like 10 moments in the show where he was like, it was almost like he was like having a feeling and he was like, what is this

DeJah: exactly? So he's, he's a, yeah, he's a sociopath.

Like there's, there is no emotion. He is always trying to mirror other people. Like that's what he's going up. There's nothing happening inside. He's always just trying to fake it. To make it, but when he does experience, like yeah, those few moments, he really is having this crisis of like, what the fuck is this happening?

Said, oh, that's a feeling. Yeah. . That is terrible.

Jen: Yes. Oh man. I know I started wrapping this up, but now it has something else random pop into my mind talking about feelings. My brother and I were talking about this the other day of like dreams that you, [00:37:00] the emotions are so, so vivid that you wake up and

You're either, I mean, you're stuck in that, whether like I've woken up with tears, literally running down my face from like a dream. That same, that the sadness was, was so vivid. That's crazy. Mm-hmm . Like we're in an unconscious state and generally that's a really good sleep. Mm-hmm . But you, and I mean, I, I've woken up never angry at someone.

Like I know there was always the joke that like. Somebody's wife has a dream that their husband or their spouse, you know, cheats on 'em. So they woke up, they wake up. Me like mad at that person.

Joe Woolworth: It's happened. Yeah. 20 years. It's marriage. I'm invited. .

Jen: Yeah,

Joe Woolworth: it's real.

Jen: So I've never done that. What time? My

Joe Woolworth: wife woke up in the middle of the night.

She wasn't awake, she was kinda like half sleepy, half awake. And she grabbed the side of my face, like with both hands, like, you know, like, oh, and I don't know where you're gonna guess what's gonna happen. And she bites the top of my head and then rolls over and goes back to sleep. And I woke her up and I'm like, what the heck?

She was like, what? Why are you waking me up? She didn't do that. Perfect. That's so funny. She was funny. She's like,

Jen: ah, oh [00:38:00] God. Was she a zombie in her dream? Like going after your brains? But I dunno, maybe she thinks

Joe Woolworth: you're a snack. But I've had that too, where you wake up and you can't, my dreams are so dumb.

I never even fully remember them. Like I had a dream a couple weeks ago that somebody stole something from me and I woke up mad, but they stole something I don't own. And then like three minutes go by and I can't remember what it was, but I'm still mad for like the first half of the day. Like, how dare that.

Yeah. Yeah. Nice dream steal for me. Something I don't actually have, you know,

Jen: it's so, yeah. I remember I was so affected by a dream that I was, because it dealt with somebody in my past. And so I went to my therapist and I hadn't seen or talked to this person in, in a long, like several years, and I just went to my therapist and I was like, why are they popping in my dream?

Like, why ? Like, I have, I, I don't miss this person like that, you know? And so I was almost more angry that that was the person in my dream, like trying to bring up old shit back into my life. And she was like, it's because when you're in your dream, you can't create new faces. Mm-hmm . Right in your mind. And so your, your [00:39:00] mind is gonna default to faces that, you know, and I'm like.

Mind pick a different fucking face. Like not that one, like it's not a half bad looking face, but like pick a different face, you know? But I was like, you know, that makes a lot of sense. I don't like it. But that makes a lot of sense that in, in a dream state, you don't make up faces. You, your right brain has interesting's

DeJah: in default because like I have so many people in my dreams that I've never ever met before, so it must be picking them like off of watching tv.

Jen: Yeah, maybe you're like a sim game. Like you've

DeJah: just seen all these faces. The world, the other night I woke up and I was pissed because , I kept having this like same repeated dream. I was in like a commercial and like, but I couldn't com complete it. Like I, yeah, it was weird. Like I was being forced to act in a commercial and I was like.

Why the fuck you guys asking me to do this? Like I, was it a condom? I don't even like getting my picture taken. Like it was a condom commercial for fudo pees. It should be , but like, and then it would end and I would wake up and I'd fall back asleep and I'd start the same dream over. So like, I tracked my sleep, right?

And it was just this repeated like every [00:40:00] 15 minutes. Oh, you were in a loop? I was in a loop and I woke up and I was like, one, why two? What the fuck, ? I just,

Joe Woolworth: yeah, my, my dreams end up being loops too. And I'll wake up upset about something that's not real. And I'll have to like wake up, get outta bed and go to another room and like do something for a little bit so I can realize that it's not real.

Otherwise, if I try to go back in, I'm right back in the loop. Yeah.

DeJah: Yep. And it's the weirdest feeling when you can't remember, but you still have

Joe Woolworth: the emotions from

DeJah: it. Mm-hmm . You're, why am I so mad? Why am I so sad? Or why? What is, oh

Joe Woolworth: God, just lemme go. Have you guys ever heard that you can't read in a dream unless you're lucid dreaming?

DeJah: Yes. No, I've never heard that. I have seen this in like TV shows where they're like, so

Joe Woolworth: like when it's early in the morning and I wonder if I'm lucid dreaming, like if I can control it, I try to read something . You know, it's like, 'cause then I can control the dream, which I would just try to fly or something.

Yeah.

DeJah: And yeah. 'cause in like some like nightmare scenarios and some like movies and books I've read, it's like you can pull yourself out if you try to read. Like if you're trapped in a dream nightmare, if you try to read it'll, [00:41:00] huh?

Jen: Yeah. Oh. I don't like. Do you Dr. Do you guys dream a lot? Like I don't. Like, I can't remember the last time that I had a dream, or at least one that stuck with me.

Yes, maybe that one from several years ago. Stupid brain, , .

Joe Woolworth: It has a lot to do with what I eat and how long before bed it is. Mm-hmm . Whether or not really. I wonder why. It's usually if I eat something greasy or sugary before bed, I got a lot more chance of dreaming. Oh, I too, I've, well, as

Jen: I sat there and ate Cinnamon Toast Crunch before I went to bed last night, CTC all day.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man.

DeJah: Dreams are crazy. No, dreams are fascinating. Yeah. I have, I was gifted a little dream book, you know, the, the definitions of stuff. And so I sometimes will pop that open 'cause I will have, I'll be like. Well, so where did that narwhal come from? Yeah, . .

Jen: It could go to the index of the book.

Yeah, but what does that mean, ?

DeJah: That's gotta be a pretty cool book. It's, yeah. Yeah. So it, and it, it makes sense too. There are some things that are just stressed induced, and they're repeated [00:42:00] actors or physical objects that you see that are anchors in your mind, or are anxiety triggered or anger triggered, like,

Jen: yeah.

DeJah: Repeating things that you'll see.

Jen: Yeah, I, yeah, I one thing that really helped me, I mean, literally last year, whenever I was really dealing with a lot of anxiety and I was either staying awake with . Thoughts that would not stop, or I'd fall asleep and wake up immediately with thoughts that would not stop.

That's where this podcast came from. Mm-hmm . One thing I started doing at the recommendation of my therapist was journaling about this thing. She was like, even if they don't make any sense, if there's no like questions that you have, there's no even period or there's no periods to, to the thought that you had, if it's just random, but it's keeping you awake, it's stressing you out.

She was like, just at 3:00 AM. Take your light on, write it down in a journal real quick and then see how that helps you and I'll be damned. Mm-hmm . It's, it's, it's the bee's knees. . Yeah. That's cool.

DeJah: Yeah. That, just, that psychological

Jen: purge of it. Mm-hmm . And then, yeah. Yeah. Yep. The

DeJah: human brain [00:43:00] is fascinating.

Jen: Very cool. And I also, there, I think another piece of that too is that. I have used that as like timeline points, right? So I, I remember making a journal entry that I was just really stressed out and like angry, almost angry one day of just like all the constant frustration and not knowing what I was gonna do and what direction I was gonna move in and things like that.

So I just, it was like 3:00 AM and I made a journal injury and then I didn't for like three months mm-hmm . And then I woke up and I wasn't necessarily in a bad place, but I was just in a restless. Mind place. And so I did another journal entry, but I went back and read that one and I was like. There is so much that has changed.

That has happened. Very, very good things that have happened in since the last time I did that entry. Mm-hmm . So it was such a good point of a point of reflection of like, holy shit, I was here three months, three or four months ago, whatever, and look where I'm at now. And the difference in those, that relatively short timeframe, right?

Yep. Like. It feels long sometimes when you're in it, but looking back, I was like, oh, that's really cool. That's when you like high five [00:44:00] yourself. You know what I mean? . Good job, buddy. So, I mean, would highly recommend for anybody, like, it doesn't have to be . really fancy, cool journal. It can be a notepad.

Mm-hmm. Like a legal pad. Okay. We can go old school with it. I would highly write if, if you find yourself unable to sleep because of restless thoughts, whether it's a pseudo penis of a hyena mm-hmm . Or

DeJah: how you'd look with one with yoga pants on. Yeah. .

Jen: Or the toxic tri that you just can't seem to get rid of.

Like, it, it really, it has really helped me. I can't say it will a hundred percent help help you if you choose to, to try it, but it, it is worth a try. Like just breathing techniques. Every co

DeJah: copay mechanism, you gotta give it a whirl to see if

Jen: it works for

DeJah: you. It

Jen: doesn't.

DeJah: Mm-hmm . That's okay. Yep.

Jen: Breathing techniques helped, but they weren't working for me at that phase in my life.

So journaling did mm-hmm . And here we are. That's awesome. So all the things, so. Good recommendation. Now I'm gonna start wrapping it up again. Joe, are you gonna , are you gonna start talking about something else? Talking about your loops,

Joe Woolworth: Joe ? I can, I actually just I just programmed chat GPT [00:45:00] to be a professional dream interpreter and I put in my dream of something getting stolen and it kind of read my mail a little bit.

Jen: you okay? Anybody

Joe Woolworth: wanna, anybody wanna try it? ?

Jen: Well, I don't remember my last dream. So, so I

Joe Woolworth: put in, something got stolen from me and it said, fear of vulnerability. Mm-hmm . Insecurity of self-worth, unresolved guilt. Change in letting go. Damn. Mm-hmm . Joe, you okay

Jen: over it there? ? . Do you need a hug buddy?

Joe Woolworth: Violation of Boundaries. That's the one I was like, yeah. Mm-hmm . I probably was, 'cause there was probably something like a client conversation or something I was mad about.

DeJah: Yeah, it's amazing how that, you know, just wiggles its way in there. Anybody try it? It's all stood up. I can just type in your dream.

What was your

Jen: last dream? Deja? I truly don't remember. I'd be sitting here for a while.

DeJah: Type it. What does it mean to be in a commercial? ?

Joe Woolworth: Alright,

DeJah: here we go. Come back.

Joe Woolworth: Your brain is wackadoodle . All right, we all know Chat. GPT knows no wrong. Here we go. Yep, [00:46:00] yep. See what the answer is. Mm-hmm . Oh, it froze. Chat.

G BT couldn't handle it. It was like, Nope. Yeah, that's right. Mic drop .

DeJah: Fuck you. Jet G. Bt,

Joe Woolworth: that's a new one. ,

DeJah: you broke Chat g pt, we really know how to handle it because I don't go on social media or express the madness that's inside of me. It hasn't been exposed to this yet. Yeah. Fair enough. There's no algorithm of Deja

No. And there never will be. Buddy .

Joe Woolworth: Alright, hold on. Are we trying again? Yeah, I had to open up a new one. Lemme program it real quick. Okay, here we go. All right. Being forced to be in a television commercial. Possible interpretations. One. Performance anxiety, , , I mean, duh. Two. Lack of control. Three, feeling objectified or used.

Four. Desire for this isn't a fun game for desire, for attention, or fear of exposure, and five conformity pressures.

Jen: Hmm. Is there anything positive for dream interpretations? . Like Chap,

Joe Woolworth: [00:47:00] GPT needs therapy. .

Jen: It's forcing us all to,

Joe Woolworth: lemme just ask the reinterpret. It would be better this time. Opportunity for growth.

Hidden potential. Yeah. Embracing visibility. There we go. Be an expressionist. Mm-hmm . Manifest. Attention. That sounds more like me. There's that radio

Jen: voice

Joe Woolworth: you had. That's so funny. You had to ask it to be like, well, what if it was good news? Oh. Oh, okay. Consider that. I'm trying to get you humans outta here.

Oh my

Jen: God.

DeJah: So funny.

Jen: Oh man, well call her. Thank you for your voicemail and given us the opportunity to for Deja to science out . I always love when she gets to do that and kudos to the school that's teaching these things still. Oh, yes,

DeJah: thank you. Sweet.

Jen: Of all the things they're trying to ban and get rid of.

Did you guys hear the article about

Joe Woolworth: the words they banned? What was that? Peace Universe was? It wasn't Peace University. University. Yeah. So here's, here's the thing.

DeJah: I already got. So as a, as a news junkie, I just stopped in November and I still haven't picked it up. Had to quit. That's impressive. I literally have designed, I only have [00:48:00] the YouTube algorithm and I've designed it to not show me anything, and yet it still does.

But no, I know nothing.

Joe Woolworth: So the long and the short was, it was just basically like real life, 1984. It was like, oh, we're gonna interpret this to mean, here's a list of 50 words we can't say. And the words are like white. Black inequity, . It's like

Jen: what?

Joe Woolworth: It already got returned. It already got reversed. Of course.

Okay. Of course. I think the school was just, I think, but who knows? I feel like you should start every news conversation, like with this, I don't work for the news. I don't know. This is my opinion. Mm-hmm . It could be totally wrong. I think the school was just like messing with people. Yeah. We'll reverse it.

Here's a list of things we won't say. Oh, great. .

DeJah: Well, I mean, you could, you, it doesn't take much If you watched any of the like, you know, school, school board meetings. Where, you know, you get a real loud person who's just, you know, hitting the drums and they're like, oh yeah, let's do the same with the book Burnings and Bannings and all that, right?

Like, yeah, I'm not even shocked. So we're like, oh yeah, sure. That sounds about right. This is America. Spur the books and ban the words and Yay. Fascism . [00:49:00]

Jen: I just, I'm at a loss, guys. I don't even know what to say about it all anymore. Again, that's why

DeJah: I am, I have now discovered reality tv. How many years behind am I?

When did that shit come out? .

Jen: Oh, reality tv. What do I think was Survivor like the first reality show? I

Joe Woolworth: was gonna say Survivor.

Jen: Survivor. When did Big Brother come out again? Oh, maybe

Joe Woolworth: that's first. Yeah. I don't know because

Jen: I don't think it was American Idol. Like given that I just in

DeJah: 2025 .

Jen: Yeah. Ask. Hey Joe.

Ask chat. GPT what the first reality show was. All

DeJah: right. Excellent, excellent. We just, yeah. 'cause I started Love Is Blind. That's that's where I started in my reality. Yeah. Well and they've got

Jen: seasoned like bajillion already, don't they? Yeah.

Joe Woolworth: Candid camera. 1948.

Jen: Holy shit. You're on Candid camera. 19 was a good show.

40. Remember I said that at my grandma's house when I was little? I did

DeJah: too. I loved that. Yeah.

Jen: Oh, when was punked out on TMTV. All right. Let's see. We're just putting Joe to work today, right?

Joe Woolworth: I can type Punk on MTV. March [00:50:00] 17th, 2003.

DeJah: Oh, wow. Oh, okay. Ing That seems like later think maybe it was like the nineties, it is later than 1948.

put so funny. But no, like the, the nowadays reality tv.

Joe Woolworth: Like, yeah, my wife won't let me be in the room when she watches. Love Is Blind 'cause I can't shut my mouth about it. , ,

Jen: my brother and sister-in-law have teased that they want to submit me to be on that show. And I was like, I couldn't do it. I could, I could not do it like

One, I'm, I'm jaded from being divorced. Two, I'm jaded from working in family law for 10 years. Like there is no way, first of all, well apparently they, there is space for like prenups and stuff, but I, after 10 days, are you kidding me? I think that, or whatever the hell it is there needs,

DeJah: I think this needs to happen.

There has to be a middle aged, love is blind. Divorce

Jen: day, love is blind. Just to all divorces.

DeJah: Okay. Legit because, alright. All the original show right, is all, they're all in their twenties and their early thirties. . No, no, no. I think it would be hilarious to be, yeah. [00:51:00] Get your divorcees, your experienced people.

You got kids up there like they got kids. Yeah. Yeah. Legit life problems You gotta talk about like

Jen: a parenting styles. Mm-hmm . And, yep. Mm-hmm .

DeJah: Yeah. I, I think that would be hilarious. That should

Jen: be a spinoff. Yep.

DeJah: I agree. You should be,

Jen: love has sunglasses. Oh, . Mm-hmm .

DeJah: Love has Botox,

Jen: Love Got Laser Eye surgery, right?

Love

DeJah: got lasik,

Jen: Oh, spot on. Spot on Love. Got lasik. That's my favorite. I like

DeJah: it. I'm here for alliteration, so love got

Jen: lasik. I

DeJah: love it. Oh shoot. Oh man. Okay, so for the 27th time.

Jen: Yes. Are we, we wrap this one up, Joe, stop you and chat. GPT. Stop interrupting us. . . Oh lord guys, thanks for tuning in and following us along on this all over the place journey.

But you know what, that's what you signed up for by listening. True. So, so we appreciate it. And go find

DeJah: a pen [00:52:00] Verde. Listen, you continue rambling and jingle jangle whatever hangs below