Ramblings of a Restless Mind

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Jen: there are a lot of fun things that you get to do as an adult that well see that.

Okay. So that

DeJah: so reality is, is that I'm just being a child when I get to, right. Like, I'm, I'm Superman and through the jungle in the cloud, like I'm being a child who had the money to do it.

Cy: It, it, [00:00:15] it's, it's, yeah. It's a balance. It's, it's a healthy

DeJah: So technically my answer is kind of yes and no. 'cause I'm just, yeah, yeah. I'm adulting so that I can be a child.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, when we were young, we always, we wanna hurry up and be an adult so we can make our own decisions and do all things our own [00:00:30] things. And sometimes I'm like, oh, can somebody else decide for me? Oh,

you know.

Cy: Adultier adult.

Jen: Can somebody roll the trash out to the end of the driveway? For me, that is my weakness

DeJah: and all my, my, I don't know why bringing the, the trash out is [00:00:45] like the hardest thing in life for me.

Like, oh my Lord. [00:01:00] [00:01:15]

Jen: What a bop. Love it. It's such a bop. You gotta love it. Hello? Hello? Hello, Ramblers. It is 2025. Holy shit. I turned 40 this year. [00:01:30] Holy

DeJah: shit. I turned 45.

Jen: Yikes, but also hooray. I feel great. Like, how are you feeling buddy? It's, it's great to be back. We have a few episodes out now. And we're, we couldn't help but laugh because this is the first show that we're recording in the studio in 2025 and now [00:01:45] to the, cause we have some technical difficulties, but we're here.

Yes. And up and running and we're feeling great. How are you feeling? We're, we're a few days into 2025. I just saw you yesterday in like the four days prior to that. But how are you?

DeJah: Fantastic. I am really looking forward to just crushing. [00:02:00] Some 20, 25 goals?

Jen: Hell yeah. Hell yes. Me too. Mm-hmm. Me too, by the way, if you're just tuning in for the first time, my name is Jen, one of the co-host here of Ramblings of a Restless Mind and joined by my illustrious life wife.

Deja [00:02:15] my sister from another Mya. We joke all the time about how we wanna pray the straight out of us just because life would be so much easier as far, much easier as finding a partner. I dunno, they have camps for that. Yeah. C camp. Well, we're gonna build, build our own. We [00:02:30] bougie. Oh man. We just came off of, we spent all the holidays together.

Deja the adoption paperwork went through and my parents officially adopted her. It's true. And we spent Thanksgiving together. We indoctrinated her into all of our [00:02:45] Christmas shenanigans. Even ki Christmas karaoke. We got her up there doing that. It was a blast. And then we went glamping. Yeah. With my parents to ring in the new year.

So it.

DeJah: Was the most popping New Year's party.

Jen: Oh my, oh my gosh. That

DeJah: I've ever been to. So snaps.

Jen: [00:03:00] Yes. All the way around. We gotta paint the picture here so my parents don't cla camp. They glamp. Which is camping in an RV with electricity and wine and AC and all those things. Large screen TV and full fridge.

Yes. Yes. It's nicer than the kitchen of my house [00:03:15] anyway. And so New Year's Eve and there at the campground. This one was in close to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And and the night of Christmas, or geez, new Year's Eve, there was an event at the little community center there on the campground. And, [00:03:30] it was so funny 'cause we, we got up, we had brunch and we're like doing the things. Basically started drinking at like 9:30 AM We started Bloody Mary's 'cause what else do you do? And then we had dinner. And we had some homemade mac and cheese. We were just living life, right? And we got done and cleaned up [00:03:45] and it was six o'clock and we were like, shit, this party doesn't start until nine.

We still got three more hours. So we started a fire and hung out and everything. Anyway, I got ready. I. We get all the things and we're walking down to this little, there's a live [00:04:00] band. We walk, we walk in, and y'all, we all busted out laughing because we walked into a retirement home. I mean, oh Lord

DeJah: Lambda.

Absolutely, absolutely. It was just white and gray hairs as far as the eye could see. Yes, it was.

Jen: [00:04:15] Yes. And it also looked like, like a, like a prom or like a dance for, for wise people call 'em vintage. For vintage people for vintage. Fantastic. Because it was all these round banquet tables and so me and my mom and Steve, my bonus dad and Deja, we walk up to the round table in the [00:04:30] front on the other side of the dance floor.

No one's dancing. And then I got up there and did the Cupid shuffle. Yes. With a bunch of senior citizens. Yes. And that's probably one of my top five moments in life.

DeJah: And then at one point they literally kidnapped me and grabbed me Yes. And forced me to go up there and dance with them. So yes, to Footloose,

Jen: I think to the [00:04:45] song from Footloose.

It's yes. Yes,

DeJah: I was kicking up the heels. Yes, you were. Yes, I was. I'm

Jen: happy to report that all hips and knees are marked safe into 2025. Now,

DeJah: I, I ha I have to add that the, the table that was out, like dancing with us and, you know, pulling me up there, had a full [00:05:00] bar set up at their own table. I mean, there was a margarita bar.

There was like a whiskey bar at their own table. Yep. Like they, they came prepared, so they sure

Jen: did. We were rookies. Mm-hmm. We, Aja had some Prosecco and a water bottle. I had a bottle of sparkling bordeaux. Yeah. It was a, we were rookies, but we learned. We [00:05:15] learned. It was great. It was great. So, speaking of great things, in 2025, we're gonna talk about our first guest of 2025, and he is one of the greatest things in my life for the last 17 years.

I did the math, I know. [00:05:30] 17 years. I know I, you guys can't see him, but he's shaking his head right now. I'm so excited, and this is a bit of a full circle moment for me because I started, I'm starting a new job this Monday, but the, the f the job I have for the last eight and a half years was a law firm, [00:05:45] our law firm.

I was mentioned before. Has a pod podcast and several, a couple years ago this gentleman joined us on our podcast and we were talking about how the kids are all right and we talked about being children whose parents have gone through a divorce. 'cause I worked at a family law firm, [00:06:00] so to have him now joining Deja and I on our own podcast is pretty, pretty awesome.

I can't wait to hear what he has to share with the world and would love to. Welcome in Mr. Cy Harold podcast.[00:06:15]

Cy: I love the fanfare. That's, that's, I was not expecting that. Thank you everyone who virtually clapped.

Jen: Thank you. So I, I, I don't know, I just have so many things to say because I'm so excited I can't even get it all out. So just thank you so much for joining us today to carving out the time [00:06:30] because you don't have much of it to yourself these days.

Cy: not these days not for a long time, but every once in a while I can squeeze in some multitasking.

Jen: So we're, we just, we're kicking it off into 2025. One of the reasons why you are such a busy man is because you [00:06:45] are a wonderful father and husband. You are a business owner, a corporate middle manager. I. A published author, which I cannot wait to expand on that. An aspiring pilot, A nerd welcome, and a [00:07:00] few other things that you've forgotten at the moment.

So

Cy: Yeah, that sounds about right.

Jen: love that all of that wrapped into one makes you and I, how is your 2025 starting off? I know the kids haven't kind, gotten back into their [00:07:15] routine and school and stuff yet, so how's your 2025 starting?

Cy: Speaking of ramblings it's, it's interesting because the boys at least I have two boys, twin boys and a little girl all under five. And they are currently on track [00:07:30] out 'cause they're in private schools. So, that's been wonderful trying to work and have kids who aren't in school and don't go back to school until the foreseeable future.

So that's fun. But making do. We're figuring it out there enjoying [00:07:45] life and probably gonna hate it come Monday. Once they have to go back and get up at six 30. So, yeah. It's, it's been a typical start to the 2025, I'd say.

Jen: There you go. I also like, so we, we send out a few questions to our guest [00:08:00] and I like the way that you kicked this off with how to introduce you, and he said, I'm an enigma wrapped in confusion with too much ambition most days and not enough determination, others, or something like that. So. Same. I think you [00:08:15] just wrapped up everyone in life these days, so

Cy: Yeah. Yeah.

Jen: wonderfully said.

Cy: I feel like I wrapped up the, the adulting kind of mentality with that. And it just came to me, so I'll take it.

Jen: Awesome. So we [00:08:30] asked of course we'd like to ask our guest what we, what they wanna ramble about. And so, um, s here, which. I'm still getting used to.

Cy: Understandable.

DeJah: gonna have to segue and say, I may call you [00:08:45] Will, because that's how I know you or know of you, I should say. Right. So just for anyone listening, when we're using different names, we are referring to the same person.

Yes. Yes. Will, is that as will? Yes. Yes. Yes.

Cy: Yeah, the, the wonderful life of a, of, [00:09:00] of a pin name that I've been getting used to, and I refer to my actual name quite often when I'm not supposed to, so I'm sure it'll take some time and there's no worries

DeJah: you for Grace. Yeah.

Jen: Yeah. So will si, si will this one and the [00:09:15] same amazing human being. So before we get into the topic that you have I wanna talk about why you have this wonderful pen name and here a little bit more about this because it is super exciting. So, Mr. Published author, please tell us [00:09:30] all about your publication.

Cy: Yeah, yeah. I've been a published officer since about July of 2024 which is probably a bit of why my introduction says that I'm an enigma wrapped in confusion. 'cause I thought it was a good idea to write [00:09:45] a sci-fi novel, which it now I'm regretting thoroughly every. Day and month. You, well, once you, it's all the thought and the, the the bright lights and of everything of publishing a book and being a author and all that stuff is all fun [00:10:00] on the front end.

And then you get the book published or go through the process of publishing it and realize just how much hell it is. And you're like, oh, this, this, this is not fun. I don't like any of this at all. But but of course I'm, I'm

DeJah: What is not, what is not fun? [00:10:15] If I may ask,

Cy: Well, so I. To clarify, I'm a self-published author, and that's you know, different from what most people know as traditionally published authors where you go through one of the big five publishers, your your Penguin Publishing [00:10:30] house, or your McMillan, or things like that where you essentially submit your writing to your, through your agent to a publishing house, and then they.

Have all these people on speed dial where they edit for you and they market and they, you know, [00:10:45] do all this extra stuff. As a self-published author, you do all of that, right? So you have to

DeJah: You are all those people.

Cy: you are all those people, you wear all those hats and all that money comes out of your pocket. So, so yeah, it's, it's the, the [00:11:00] marketing portion of it is, is different because there's obviously a lot of

DeJah: you're doing the self labor.

Cy: Yeah, yeah. There's a. There's a lot of footwork not just finding things or avenues to publish or getting your book into bookstores, but there's a [00:11:15] lot of money attached to it too sometimes, and depending on how much reach you want to have is how much you pay to do or what have you.

DeJah: oh, that's good. Good to know. 'cause they don't, they don't tell you that when they're like the glamor of publishing a book, right? Oh, if you could, oh, you could do this. It's so,

Cy: Yeah, they, [00:11:30] they, they leave that part out pretty heftily actually. So,

Jen: you.

So you mentioned that it's a sci-fi novel, so please tell the listeners, well those in the studio as well. 'cause they don't know either.

Cy: Fair,

Joe: I reading it on Amazon.

Cy: [00:11:45] Yeah. I was just wondering 'cause I, I actually get to see when people are reading it through Amazon, I was like, oh, somebody's reading my book. I don't know how I feel about that. It's like, I feel indifferent. That feels weird. Don't do that.

Jen: So I [00:12:00] loved you know, it's been a social media part of your journey. I, I remember whenever you first kind of had this thought years ago, and you knew that you wanted to publish a book, and so I'm so stinking proud of you for making it happen, first of all, and sticking with that because. You had this, this [00:12:15] idea and this dream and this goal to do this before you were a husband, before you were a dad.

And so to stick to that for something for you, I think is huge. And you should be super, super proud of that because a regular person that doesn't have all these responsibilities and [00:12:30] duties a lot of times don't follow through with those kinds of aspirations. And you have no matter what it took.

And I I'm thinking maybe you just don't like sleep, and maybe that's what to make it happen.

Cy: A little bit of that, I think. But no, I really appreciate that and it's, it's, it's been a [00:12:45] interesting journey and I've had a lot of support, obviously you've of course included and, and all my friends and family and have kind of, it kept that inspiration going as well. So, it, it's, I think. I've read or saw somewhere that it [00:13:00] was either like two or 12% of all people who want to write a book actually finish writing the book.

And then it kind of starts to, continues to dwindle from finish writing it, to having it edited, to actually publishing it. So that even sometimes I [00:13:15] forget to think about it through that lens that you actually

Jen: do props.

Cy: Yeah.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah.

Cy: is, which is interesting. But but yeah, I

Jen: So you're here and it's out in the world. You're very welcome. So tell us, tell us a little bit about it. Tell, tell the listeners that you mentioned at Sci-fi, but [00:13:30] what's the name of it? What can they expect? All that fun stuff.

Cy: so it's the novel's called Law of anova. It's the first of a planned trilogy, and it's essentially about a, a young man who after he finds out about the mysterious kind of disappearance of his [00:13:45] father has to travel to the other side of his planet in hopes to find answers. But as he gets over there, he realizes that there's a, a lot more to it and there's a lot more things going on than what he expected.

And it. Pretty much just follows that that [00:14:00] adventure of him unraveling some of those secrets. But yeah, so it's, it's available ebook hardback, paperback through pretty much everywhere you buy your books. EBooks only on Amazon though. So yeah,

DeJah: I'm excited. I love sci-fi, so [00:14:15] I'm down.

Cy: appreciate that. I

Jen: and, and things that I'd ever, I mean, I don't know, probably won't ever write a book. I'm, I'm not gonna say never, I guess, but is seeing like the character art, like the, the cover of your book [00:14:30] come to life, like to see those steps. 'cause you've, you've kind of journaled that on your Instagram account, which is at PCI Harold, which is.

C-Y-H-A-R-O-L-D. Go follow 'em on Instagram. You've kind of documented all the, those steps along the way when you've got you [00:14:45] know, the book cover art and then the, it's so cool to see the character art because I don't, a lot of times I. I guess I'll develop an image in my head, but I feel like recently there's been so many books that become movies that [00:15:00] sometimes I don't find out about the book until after I see that there's a movie coming out.

And so then I know who's playing the character, and then that's who I automatically have in my head. So like that happened with me with Hunger Games. And so I just saw Jennifer Lawrence's catts the entire time that I'm reading it. But [00:15:15] so. To see the character art. Like what, what hand did you play in that?

Like the person that helped you with the art, you were like, this is what this person looks like kind of thing? Or did you just give 'em free reign, like read the book and figure it out?

Cy: Yeah, so it was, it was kind of a mixture between the two. [00:15:30] The person who does my character art is, is actually a author. Herself author TL Combs and she does a lot of her own character art and is graphically a graphic designer kind of by training way back when. [00:15:45] And she looks f she's read my book and she's also one of my, kind of one of the authors in my inner circle who help with critiquing the writing and, and kind of my alpha reader when she reads the book, when it's at it's kind of rawest [00:16:00] form. And she's she looks for a lot of, you know, she's like, I'm going to take a lot of freedom if you don't give me enough direction.

So, some characters I had a little bit more input to whereas other ones I was like, I don't [00:16:15] really. Kind of know what I want this person to look like, but here's some kind of key features that I've mentioned in the book or that you might remember or might not remember. And she kind of will go back and forth and say, Hey, how you, what do you think about this?

Should I change the hair? Should I change what he's [00:16:30] wearing or what have you? And it's a kind of a, a back and forth little thing.

Jen: So, and Dejas not on social media or else I would show her what these people look like, but this is gonna sound a little creepy so y'all don't judge me, but they're attractive. [00:16:45] Like there's some hot you got going on, so.

Cy: Yeah, that's, that's been a whole thing as well.

Jen: Yeah. So if you could put you on the spot here, if you could, you know, let's say [00:17:00] fast forward this your amazing book gets turned into a movie. 'cause I mean, I could, that's a great movie title, right? Like, I would watch such it who Law is the main character right?

Cy: Yes.

Jen: Okay, so who, I'm not gonna ask you to pick movies, you know, actors for all the characters 'cause [00:17:15] we'd be here all day.

But if you could pick anybody to play law in a movie version of your book, adaptation of your book, who would you pick?

Cy: Yeah, see law's, the, the hardest one. Because you know, the, obviously with all authors, there's a little bit of self you know, [00:17:30] self pushing into some of your characters, and he's probably one I've, I've pushed most of myself into. So that's always been the hardest one. And. I've, his look has mostly been based on a few of my nephews as well, and so it, it's [00:17:45] kind of hard to pick somebody.

I think we talked about it before and one of the people I thought about, I, I think I, I forget his name, but he was in I, the Secret was it, it's one of the se [00:18:00] Marvel series that with Nick Fury and he was like the villain in that, I can't remember the name of the show.

Secret Invasion is the name of the series and the actor is Kingsley Beir. It's kind of a mill [00:18:15] between him and the Rege Pay guy from um, Bridgeton.

Jen: Oh, oh, oh yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. I could see it and seeing the character art as well. Yeah,

Cy: [00:18:30] Yes, that's the closest I could find. I have people for pretty much everybody else which I gave to my character artists.

Jen: He is dad laughing it for a month, for for a minute. Yes. And with these two actors, deja, I dunno if you know the other one, [00:18:45] John, I'm gonna murder his name. From the Bridger cast?

Cy: Yeah. Reggie Payne, is it, is that his name or something?

Jen: Yes.

Cy: Yeah. He's kind of a mesh between,

Jen: Rege page, I guess.[00:19:00]

Cy: yeah.

Jen: Yeah. So they're both British. So does law speak with a British accent

Cy: he, does a little bit in my mind because his sister does the first person who voiced or read some of my work and kind of. Played as one of the [00:19:15] characters is also my character artist. And she writes a lot of what's it called? Stuff like Bridgeton like Regency Romance. And so she gave it a little bit of a, a kind of a British turn to it, and I was like, Hmm, I kind like that.

Jen: Okay.

Cy: [00:19:30] and so, so yeah, he is, he's got a little, little pinch in there I would say.

Jen: It seems like anytime there is like sci-fi, several of the characters do have a British accent, which way Cooler than American accent.

Cy: Yeah. And you know, it kind of adds [00:19:45] to that melting pot feel of them being on another planet and it not just being a bunch of Americans running around or something like that. So, and then I have another character, Charlie, he's the best friend and him, I based off of the Reacher [00:20:00] guy.

Jen: Rachel?

Cy: yeah, the Reacher, the series.

Jen: Yes. Listen, Rick, he could get it. I'm not gonna lie.

Cy: hey, look, I mean, he can get it from me too. I mean, I like it is what it is.

Jen: I.

Cy: I mean, you [00:20:15] know, him and Henry Cavel, like right up there. I'd, I'd

Jen: movie they were in together. Oh. Oh,

DeJah: stop.

Cy: haven't seen that movie. But then when I finally realized they were in a movie together, I was like, how, why?

Jen: it was

Joe: un

Cy: should be illegal.[00:20:30]

Joe: right? Yes, yes,

Cy: That is that what of, of course, it's named that.

Jen: Yes,

Cy: Of course that would be the name

Jen: it is. He plays like the guy that plays Jack Reacher. It. He plays like this Swedish, like just badass, but just is just always happy and laughing. Teddy bear of a

DeJah: [00:20:45] man. Yes.

Cy: Well, well, and I, I didn't realize he was, you know, he was back in those comedies, like the scary movie type era of comedies. And so that fits him. He's always been that goofy guy. He just wound up, I don't know, smacking [00:21:00] a gym completely off of the face of the earth and decided, oh, okay. I can still be goofy and jacked.

Joe: One. The few actors' like, yeah, I take steroids. Have you seen me?

Cy: yeah. mean, and he's, yeah, he's very clear about it. He is like, look, this is what [00:21:15] it's, I'm not gonna try to lie, but yeah.

Jen: which is so funny 'cause in Jack Reacher he is very serious. Like he doesn't have a sense of humor at all. He is just very dry, just very serious.

Joe: I saw a Netflix movie called rebel Ridge, which was really good. And the, the guy that was the actor, and [00:21:30] it looks like your character art. His name is Aaron Pierre.

Cy: So he is who I use to base my villain off of just Shinzo. So I don't know, I don't know if you've seen the latest character art Jen,

Jen: Yes,

Cy: that's who I

Jen: gentleman with [00:21:45] like the silver dreads, right?

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Gray, silver, I think gray. I, I dunno how

Cy: Yeah. I think they're purple. I think they're

Jen: purple. Okay.

DeJah: Lavender, if you will,

Cy: Yeah.

DeJah: we could have fit in at our New Year's Eve party. Yes. [00:22:00]

Jen: Yes, yes.

Cy: But he could have, yes, exactly.

Jen: Okay. Well I'm ready for the movie already, so.

Cy: If I could just get them together on the screen, I think I could really grab enough

Jen: Yeah, you got the budget for [00:22:15] that, right?

Cy: yeah,

Jen: You gotta sell what, like two more books.

Cy: yeah. I, I think I got some money beside the moth in my wallet.

DeJah: Right? Right. I'm looking forward to reading the book though, so.

Cy: appreciate that. I Yep. And you, you teased, [00:22:30] it's the first of a trilogy, and I remember you posting something on Instagram where you shared it that someone had read your book and she. The video of the end of it where she was just like, and you just go leave us like that.

Jen: When's book number two coming out? So

Cy: Yeah. [00:22:45] Yeah. So it

is, I've been told it's a cliffhanger. I don't agree that it's a cliffhanger like some of my other friends have written. But

Jen: because you knew it was coming.

Cy: what, well, yeah, and I get that and I should, I should, I [00:23:00] feel like that's kind of how all trilogies work out. They, they kind of, there's a hang of some sort to get you to the next book, so, but yes I've heard that many of the book talkers and book.

Just the grammars don't care for cliffhangers too much. [00:23:15] So I apologize in advance to anyone who may

DeJah: as an avid lover of a series, right? I want to get to the end and then throw your book down, son of a bitch,

Cy: Roger, very fair, very fair.

DeJah: or I'm [00:23:30] weeping because it's the last one, right? Like it's over. I know. I'm not getting anymore of the storyline. Like,

Cy: See, the, the weird thing is, is I'm the same way and I, I completely just like, like blindsided myself with that was like, [00:23:45] Hey, you don't like this either. Why would you do that to the people reading your book? And it's like, oh yeah, that's how that works. Got it.

Jen: Because we actually all do love that, right? Like, is what gets what keeps us coming back. Like I was reading like the, the, oh my gosh, is the Iron [00:24:00] Iron Wing series. Yeah. And I didn't know I was late to the game. I didn't know about the first one until the second book had just dropped. So I was able to set down that mammoth of a book and immediately pick up the second one.

Love it. So I didn't have to [00:24:15] stay too, too long on that cliffhanger.

Cy: And that's the best, yeah, that's the

Jen: That's

DeJah: like a gift, right? When you discover a book and you're like

Cy: There's more of them.

DeJah: a little kid at Christmas. Yes, yes.

Jen: It's, it is [00:24:30] fantastic. And I, yeah. Yeah. So all very exciting things. So. Guys go out there and download it, buy it, whatever, if you like. I'm a hard copy person. I like to turn the pages. I like to put a bookmark in something, so don't gimme that digital [00:24:45] shit. But for those that want that, go do it.

But I want the hard copy can't wait to read it. So way to, way to way to be an adult and do really cool things.

Cy: Yeah. Yeah. And your hard copy is on the way, by the way.

Jen: Yeah. Mm-hmm. I've been.

Cy: I know. You know, you're a [00:25:00] friend and it's like, I don't want her to have this copy because it's not great. So I'm going to wait. So now I think I've gotten it to a place where I can acceptably give it to you. So,

Jen: Fair enough, fair

enough. [00:25:15] [00:25:30] [00:25:45] [00:26:00] So speaking of adulting that kind of goes into what you wanted to ramble about today. It, it's kind of a combo of things [00:26:15] that go hand in hand and, and perfectly timed since we are in the new year and everybody talks about goals and affirmations and, I don't know, and resolutions, revelations, all the words you wanna put in there.

And so we'll start off by that or, or with that, will, do you have any goals, [00:26:30] resolutions, affirmations, habits to camp? Boundaries to set

Cy: You know, I, I can say I do, and then I, I don't know. I, I don't, I wish I could even pretend, but yeah, I, I try to set goals,

DeJah: This [00:26:45] is my, this is my thing. I, I believe with all of my heart and a vision board, absolutely. I believe in it. I've ever since I started doing a vision board. I've started crushing and dominating life. Like I, I put that thing together. I manifest through the entire [00:27:00] year 'cause I hang it by my desk and never fails, never fails.

Nice. It just helps you endlessly manifest and focus on what you want. I'm just saying say, love it. Love it.

Cy: I feel that, I feel that that is really cool. Yeah, I, [00:27:15] I, I make my goals kind of every year. It's something, something that's I, I've done for a long time. I think we had to do it way back in college, which I'm not gonna do the math like you did at the beginning. 'cause that's just disrespectful.

Jen: I

Cy: I I refuse to [00:27:30] do that. But I think we had like a, it was the whole smart goals thing where each of those letters stand for something and then I think one of my teachers was like, you're gonna do it for as your New Year's resolution. And I did it one time and it was really cool. And I've done it every year pretty much since then.

So it's [00:27:45] almost become a, a habit. But I, I made a list of those at the end of last year. And yeah, I'm gonna see if I can actually stick to it this year.

Jen: I mean, you published a book last year, so I feel like, right?

Cy: There's some leeway there,

right? [00:28:00] And then there was, you know, pandemics and stuff the previous years. It, you know, it was a lot. It was a

lot.

Jen: What about you, deja? Have you done your vision board for this year yet? I. My vision

DeJah: boards session is scheduled for this Sunday.

Jen: Okay.

DeJah: Yep. It's my, my other best, my other sister from another, Mister [00:28:15] Madison and I, every year we sit down, we create our vision boards together. Hell yeah. I yep. I wanna really focus on training the dogs.

Okay. Really give, give more dog time. As if they don't get enough of my time. Um,

Cy: [00:28:30] As they deserve.

DeJah: And investment in land and I want to continue to Yeah. Grow, grow.

Cy: That part. Exclamation point. Exclamation

Joe: Board just like hundreds [00:28:45] taxed to it. Yeah. You don't realize I've got pictures printed out on there of money, honey. That's,

Cy: There you go. There you go. If only we could print the money.

Jen: oh

Cy: Save so many problems.[00:29:00]

Jen: yeah. What about you, Joe?

Joe: I don't do goals. The vision board thing sounds good. I've never been a goal setter. I'm not an ambitious dude.

Cy: Oh, you're, I was about to say, oh, are you a goal getter? You, was you gonna hit us with one of those

Joe: Yeah, I don't know what that [00:29:15] means.

Jen: A gogetter instead of a go-getter. Well, okay, he says that. But when we walked into the, we were just in here in November recording, we walk into the studio and there's this whole nice waiting room now with like the faux green walls and this [00:29:30] neon lit sign that you lie like a rogue No, I didn't up in there.

Joe: Okay. So like stuff like that. I thought that I should do that and then I ordered it on Amazon, and two days later was here, and three days later was up. Goals,

Jen: goal accomplished. Okay. Doesn't that feel good?

Joe: I don't have time to think of think of it [00:29:45] as a goal. It's just, it's just shit I gotta do today.

DeJah: Listen, from our first recording, we said you were, had been inducted into our tribe and in our tribe, you take credit for the things that you accomplish. There you go. I'm super good at goals.

Joe: I'm speaking of the goals I have for this year [00:30:00] that I'm super good at. I don't have any, but I, I would like to do a vision board except to That sounds cool.

DeJah: It's, it really has changed. I've really become quite successful since I started doing it. I just believe in it. You, you believe more in yourself. I think it becomes more of a reality.

Joe: I think [00:30:15] all that stuff is very real. I think that it kind of got counteracted by the people who launched it into existence.

Made it into a very woowoo thing. Yeah. But I think the idea of manifesting and goal setting is. Very, very true.

DeJah: Mind. Dont matter. I have

Joe: to imagine that [00:30:30] if I did a vision board one, I would either put like stupid stuff on there like, next year I'm gonna ride to work in my yacht. Probably not. Or I would get everything on their side.

Well, boss,

DeJah: we buy the yacht first. You,

Cy: It's levels to it. It's

DeJah: right? Right.

Cy: [00:30:45] Yeah.

DeJah: Yeah.

Yeah.

Jen: Go ahead. I don't, I, I haven't, I, I'm more of an intention person instead of like a specific goal. Like I'm gonna, now work is a different thing, but for 2024. I said it, it's actually stolen my little like letter board that I [00:31:00] have in my house. It's protect your peace. And I felt like I really stuck to that last year.

And because of that, there was an immense amount of change in my life. Yes, which was fantastic. That sounds

Joe: like a Cardi B song by way. Protect your peace. Yes. Yes, you should.

Jen: [00:31:15] You know, it made me, once I really stuck to it and thought about all the things in my life that weren't bringing me peace, it was very hard.

To come to terms with that, but it led to the discovery that I, the job that I was at in, it had been in for the last eight and a half years. While I loved my team and [00:31:30] the people that I worked with, it no longer served me and was doing quite the opposite of bringing me peace. And it's very, oh man, it tough like, draining work in family law and assisting folks that are going through separation, divorce and all that kind of stuff.

And the team that is there does [00:31:45] it phenomenally. Oh yeah. I was just burnt out on it and. Once I kind of, I was like, okay, I'm gonna protect my peace as it's a bringing me peace. Oh shit, what else do I do, you know?

Cy: So let's ruin that piece a little bit more and figure it out.

Jen: Exactly. And that's, you [00:32:00] know, really where the title of this podcast kind of came from because I was weighing, laying awake at night and you know, I've talked about before in the trailer and my mind was restless and I couldn't sleep.

And I was journaling and therapy and talking to daja and drinking like all the things. And I figured it out. And here we are starting a new gig on Monday. That's right. Which [00:32:15] I'm. So, so, so stoked about, and so I don't know if, I haven't figured out what my intention is for this year, but I think I, I just, I, I feel very light and just like fucking fantastic right now, and I, I just wanna carry that thriving into like that sunshine.

I'd wanna carry my [00:32:30] sunshine into 2025 that I'm feeling right. Structure,

DeJah: right? Yeah. That comes with, you know, setting structure for yourself and manifesting what Yeah. Yeah.

Cy: and, and maybe you just made it, you're gonna carry your sunshine

Jen: I'm carry

DeJah: my

Jen: sunshine.

DeJah: Isn't that

Jen: a song? Sounds a song? Steal My Sunshine. Yes,[00:32:45]

I heard that recently actually. Awesome. I listened to like a 90 station on that plane. Um, I, you know what, you know what something else I really wanna do this year is unsubscribe from a lot of the drunk mail Oh. That I

Cy: Oh my goodness.

Joe: You're gonna have to just delete your email accounts and start [00:33:00] on this.

Cy: Yeah.

just throw the whole email away.

Joe: No, I've heard that like unsubscribing counts as interacting with the email and they send you more shit. They do.

DeJah: I have, because I sat down one time, I said, you know what I'm gonna do for my soul? I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna take a day and just unsubscribe to [00:33:15] stuff. And it was, they hit me back more, get worse.

Like this loves their emails.

Jen: She clicks on the link.

Cy: She, she actually reads it to the bottom.

Jen: That is dumb. Yes. And not fair. [00:33:30] No.

Cy: I, I have been using the, the Google one. I don't know if you know, they've been threatening in their life with legal action. 'cause I haven't gotten too many of them back. Some of them are a little bit persistent, but I don't know. We'll see. I'm, I'm gonna keep testing [00:33:45] that out. I, 'cause I don't like a bunch of clicks if I don't have to use them

DeJah: Amen.

Jen: Amen. Oh my Lord. Like, am I, but I spend so much time deleting because I can't stand notifications like I'm that person that if they're like, I, I can see, because Joe's screens sharing up here with his, all of his [00:34:00] Mac stuff here, or iPhone stuff. Does, does this bother you? And I can see like email notifications and text notifications, and I'm just like.

Cy: I, I'm not gonna lie, the little red bubble on any of the little icons or anything completely, I'm just like, I, I have to get rid of [00:34:15] that. I don't care if I don't read it. I just have to click it and be done with it.

DeJah: Yep. I have like none of that. I live such a life of not using anything that I have like four options, [00:34:30] totality on the

Jen: bottom. Yeah, she was so Deja is traveling at the end of this month and or the middle of this month Really? To Ecuador. Yeah, the Galapagos Islands. Very exciting. And one of the.

I'm just putting all your business out there. Hey, thanks. One of the really cool things [00:34:45] she's doing is getting tattooed while she's there. Yeah. And so she found the places she wanted to do it on Instagram. Well, deja iss not on Instagram, so she was like, Hey, I have to schedule through Tre. Is that a scam?

Is that real? And I was like, buddy, we have a link tree for our podcast. She was like,

DeJah: oh. Oh, okay. And then didn't [00:35:00] even do that anyway, because then I had her find out how I could talk to them through WhatsApp. Yep. I live under a rock and I trust no one. I am a Mudge, an old man. That is who I am.

Cy: fair. That's fair.

Joe: What?

WhatsApp is owned by Meta, so it's basically Facebook. Yeah.[00:35:15]

Cy: Along, along with everything else,

Jen: Yeah. Oh Lord. Are you getting the

Joe: kind of tattoo where somebody just puts a sharp needle on the end of a stick? Oh, stabs you a bunch of time.

DeJah: Wrong culture. Wrong culture Homes

Cy: Wrong

DeJah: like a gala [00:35:30] thing. Oh, no, I'm excited. It's actually really, really cool how they're. I mean, they have like multiple tattoo parlors, but I was telling her, I was like, damn, I wish you were going with me.

They have so many little breweries.

Cy: Oh,

Jen: You love this place. That is [00:35:45] really cool. Minus the whole dry January thing. Actually, I'm pretty excited about it. I, I, I downplay it, but I've been looking forward to it, which is weird 'cause I really do like beer. But I I don't know. I think it's part of the sunshine.

I'd wanna, you know, just. The health piece. I even downloaded an app so I [00:36:00] can track it and it'll tell me like how much money I'm saving and internally, like what my brain and my body is experiencing. I like it.

Cy: a good way to go

Jen: So we'll see how long it goes. I mean, I, I'm not gonna be like sober forever. This is more just to prove it to myself and to save money, to be completely honest.

[00:36:15] But but yeah, no, that is awesome. I'm

DeJah: all, I'm all about a cleanse. Like Yeah. I'm all about like. You know, I've gone, I've done the seven days in the wilderness just drinking water. Like I, I, it's a purifying thing that you need to do every once in a while for yourself. I'm not advocating you have to go into the wilderness.

No, no, but I'm [00:36:30] saying like it's good to, like sometimes just take some of the alcohol or sugar, some of the toxins.

Cy: Yeah.

DeJah: Outta your diet and, and let your body cleanse.

Jen: Yeah, I wish you could try all the beers for me buddy, but you're allergic so I would like you to come back in one piece. So, [00:36:45] alright, so the other piece of this kind of goes nicely and with the goals and if we have goals for the new year and beyond and stuff, is that, is that being an adult is overrated, yes or no?

Do we all agree?

Cy: Absolutely.

Jen: I,

Joe: I honest overrated. I, [00:37:00]

DeJah: I honestly am gonna go with no. Okay.

Cy: fair.

DeJah: 'cause as, as an adult who gets to do cool shit, well, like, way cooler shit than I could have done as, as a kid. I I like being an adult. There you [00:37:15] go. I, I love it. I love paying taxes. I, I legitimately do, I don't know why I, when I got it was like, you know what?

I like my roads. I, I like my notes. I bought them. I bought 'em all. I do. That's exactly what I say about a job like that. Or, [00:37:30] Hey, I put, you should fix that pothole. I'll pay for that.

Cy: I appreciate your ideology there. I you had me until that part. 'cause I do not like taxes. I understand it, and I will pay them [00:37:45] for legal purposes. I do pay them, but I do not like doing it.

Jen: Yeah. I, I think it, it depends upon what I'm doing. Yeah. There are some times that it, that it's overrated, like, like paying bills. I mean, I'm thankful that I have the ability to pay my bills, but it doesn't mean I like doing it. [00:38:00] Mm-hmm. But you're right, there are a lot of fun things that you get to do as an adult that well see that.

Okay. So that

DeJah: so reality is, is that I'm just being a child when I get to, right. Like, I'm, I'm Superman and through the jungle in the cloud, like I'm being a child who had the money to [00:38:15] do it.

Cy: It, it, it's, it's, yeah. It's a balance. It's, it's a healthy

DeJah: So technically my answer is kind of yes and no. 'cause I'm just, yeah, yeah. I'm adulting so that I can be a child.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, when we were young, we always, we wanna hurry up and be an adult so we can make our own decisions and do [00:38:30] all things our own things. And sometimes I'm like, oh, can somebody else decide for me? Oh,

you know.

Cy: Adultier adult.

Jen: Can somebody roll the trash out to the end of the driveway? For me, that is my weakness

DeJah: and all my, my, I don't know why bringing the, the [00:38:45] trash out is like the hardest thing in life for me.

Like, oh my Lord. Yeah. Yeah. Or

Jen: just got my the, the notice recently that my mortgage payment is about to go up a little bit. 'cause my tax property, you know, my property value went up. Yes. Which is, and which is great for the day that I go to sell it whenever that may another week. [00:39:00] Not now, but not now.

And I'm like,

Cy: Yeah. There

Jen: well, adult things. Yeah.

Joe: I think when you're a kid, you, you think things like, oh, I want to pick the restaurant. Like, you don't get to make this. I've been child of the eighties. I went wherever mom and dad went. [00:39:15] Nobody asked me what I wanted for dinner. Yeah. You know, that's not a thing. You weren't irrelevant.

Like we're eating what everybody else is eating.

Cy: can you just exist?

Joe: if somebody invites me. But now, you know, you think. I hate picking a restaurant. Yeah. Like I kinda long for some of that simpler [00:39:30] kid stuff. Just tell me what to do. Yeah. I just, you just tell me and I'll just be me and I don't have a dang thing to worry about.

Like that was the good part about being a kid.

DeJah: Yep.

Joe: But yeah, I do think we did think I. 'cause the grass is always greener Right. At the time. Like, this is messed up. I can't wait to [00:39:45] be that. Right. And now sometimes I'm just like, I look at my dog and I'm like, I want that. Oh,

Cy: I must be nice buddy. Yeah.

DeJah: oh my God. That's all I ask for.

I keep, I'm like, I, if I keep trying to do good stuff, maybe I'll come back as a house pet. Yes. Like if I just come back, is a [00:40:00] spoiled dog. Yes.

Cy: would be the goodest do

DeJah: The goodness do. Yes.

Jen: Yes. All right. So dependent upon the day is whether or not adulting is overrated. But so yeah. Okay. Now we gotta get into our three questions.

Okay. [00:40:15]

DeJah: That we

Jen: ask every get serious.

DeJah: Are you ready?

All

Cy: that was interesting.

Jen: Will, is a hot dog a sandwich?

Cy: No, full stop.

Jen: Yes.

Cy: Absolutely not.

DeJah: You.

Cy: I, I do [00:40:30] love you, Jen.

Jen: We were friends.

Cy: I know, I did not realize that this was, would be the thing that would split us up. I, I can pivot and say maybe it's has sandwich chi

[00:40:45] characteristics, but that's about as far as I can go, I think.

Jen: Oh, fine. fine. Like I said, I'm, I'm still just here by myself over here and that it is, I will argue that it is a sandwich, but it's fine.

Cy: And also [00:41:00] anyone who just adds some more controversy, if this makes it better. Anyone who uses those top cut buns probably also kick babies.

DeJah: There. Is there is something wrong with you? [00:41:15] Why would you put yourself through that energy and effort?

Why not cut it by the side to hold the contents?

Cy: Nah,

DeJah: wrong. It's morally wrong. I'm with you. I'm with you. It's Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, you know, if a, if [00:41:30] a hot dog is good enough, you don't need condiments. However you can use them, I use them sometimes. It just, it's, it's a feel thing. I like chili. I like

Cy: cheese. Some sauerkraut, maybe some relish. But sometimes if it's a good hot dog, I just want the hot dog.

And yeah, if you cut [00:41:45] it Especially if I'm at the ballpark. Oh yeah, gimme a, oh, I feel hot dogs are one. It's just ketchup up in a mustard at a ballpark is just the greatest hotdog in history.

It, it's, yeah, it's, the atmosphere just adds to like the ingredients for some reason.

Joe: Hot dogs are one of those foods for me, where it's [00:42:00] like, I know the lower quality, the hot dog, the better it's going to be. Damn street.

Cy: look, look,

Jen: I'm street.

Cy: there's, there's been some street meat I've gotten after a long night at the club where I'm just like, I should be eating this. I'm probably not gonna make it to tomorrow,

DeJah: A [00:42:15] long night at the club.

Cy: Listen, the, the, the, the terrible, the, the good and the bad of having a younger brother is that, and you're being a good, bigger [00:42:30] brother. An older brother, I don't know how to answer, but anyway, is that they want you to hang out with them on their birthdays. And so there's been a couple times where I'm just like, I'm, I'm too old for this, bro. But. Sure. You want me to, I, I got you, man. [00:42:45] 25th birthday. I'm 34. I got kids at home. All right. All right. listen, and I, I know that young brother that you're speaking of and that boy was hard.

Yeah. That, Too hard.

Jen: Yep,

Cy: Too hard in the paint.

Jen: Those are, those are the sacrifices[00:43:00]

that our livers have to make for loved ones. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He's a good one. He's a good one. But man, can't keep up.

Cy: He's too old now too, so,

Jen: That's right. It catches up. Alright. Will, what's the [00:43:15] la Unfortunately, due to playwright issues, we cannot play the song. But what is the last song that got stuck in your head?

Cy: So, so obviously I mentioned I am a father, so anything Disney. So, so if you wanna be sponsored, trust me that I [00:43:30] got you. Help 'em out. Disney,

Jen: you you mentioned one of the Encanto songs.

Cy: Yeah, that's what we watched last night. And I I can't even remember which one it was.

Jen: no one talks about.

Bruno.

Cy: jumbled. That's not, actually not the one, it was, it was one of the last [00:43:45] ones, I think when they're all like, happy

Jen: happy to go.

Cy: something. Yeah. But I was singing it all morning and as soon as I answered your question it just, yeah.

It just flew outta my mind.

Jen: you know, and you're the person who told me that there is a term.

Cy: Yeah.

Jen: For having [00:44:00] a earworm is what it's called. Yeah. Whenever you have a song stuck in your head. And I was like,

DeJah: oh, that's interesting because I've always used the term earworm in a different

context, that I earworm someone by implanting an idea. That

Jen: sounds

DeJah: [00:44:15] invasive, not just, not just towards music. Do you get consent before you implant? No, that's, that's the point. It's a parasite that you place without their permission. Oh God.

Cy: Yep. good.

Jen: Yep. Have like a little horror movie image in my head of like, [00:44:30] this, an actual, nevermind. Don't wanna talk about it.

Cy: Yeah. You sure that's not an ear wig? Are you thinking about a ear wig? Because I know that that's an actual parasite that crawls into your ear and gets into your brain and Yeah. [00:44:45] Okay. Yeah,

Jen: Alright. Right. Well,

I thought we, moving away from now, we're,

DeJah: we're

Jen: still different culture, different, different terms.

DeJah: It's fun.

Joe: Miracle. Do you guys find this to be true? I find when I have an earworm mm-hmm. Like a song stuck in my head. The only way to get rid of it is to just play it. Mm-hmm. [00:45:00] Yep. And then, then it stops.

Yes.

Jen: Yeah. And maybe that, maybe that's what, that's the search for you and you putting it on Well. Electronic paper that that that was a song that was stuck in your head and that's what helped it go away for you will.

Cy: Yeah, it's

until somebody asks you about it and it's like, oh, hey, what's [00:45:15] that song you're singing?

Jen: I'm sorry, Joe,

Cy: I did not.

Jen: Joe just said that's why he listens to so much. Paula Abdul,

Cy: I respect it.

Joe: do you love me?

Jen: Gonna [00:45:30] head to it

Joe: yesterday? You could look at my iTunes history. It happened yesterday.

Cy: I respect it.

Jen: That is a bam bam a bob. That's hilarious. Okay. And the last question for you Will is what's the last thing that made you [00:45:45] go? Hmm? And you said it was a random TikTok controversy, rabbit hole.

Cy: Yeah, that's usually how it goes. And I actually, my last thing that made me go, hmm, is you saying that because I couldn't remember what I put on the sheet, [00:46:00] so it's like, hmm, what did I put there?

Jen: For the record, he did just fill this out this morning, so,

you know.

Cy: yeah. And my mind is all over the place, so,

Jen: Yeah.

Cy: Out a lot of forms, but.

Jen: and when you say TikTok controversy, are you talking about the controversy over TikTok and the fact that it [00:46:15] is maybe about to get banned or

just one of the random things that pops up on TikTok?

Cy: Yeah, there's that. But no, it was just one of the random things that popped up on TikTok and it's, which is funny enough, I then I saw a video making fun of the fact that you [00:46:30] see something on TikTok and they're vaguely talking about it and you're just like, I don't know what any of this is about, or who this person is talking about.

'cause they won't say names. So now I'm down this rabbit hole and it's three hours later and I will know way too much about this person their life than I [00:46:45] ever should. So,

DeJah: The mind control is fascinating.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah.

Cy: awful,

Jen: It's yeah, I mean, like, I, I will sometimes get home and, and I hear people doing this that have like kids and spouses and things like that. I don't have that. I [00:47:00] have wonderful dogs, but I still will get home and I will like scroll on Instagram for a few minutes before I walk in the house.

Like it is a real addiction. Like it's, it's it insane. Absolutely insane.

Cy: Yeah. It's, it's, it's, I think it borders when addiction and, um. Maybe a wind [00:47:15] down or something like you, everybody calls it mindless scrolling or whatever.

DeJah: I would assume it allows you just to disassociate.

Cy: yeah, yeah. You, you, it's something you don't have to think too hard about after you've probably, you know, been at your day job [00:47:30] or been at your, you know,

DeJah: What gives you all of your thoughts? What you're saying is you completely abandon everything else and you fall into this rabbit hole, right. You literally just give in and allow it to you just from life. And you just let her let her ride. I mean, [00:47:45] also, I've bend down rabbit holes. I can,

Jen: yeah. Speaking of Instagram and social media your wife Will, who I also love dearly, she was so kind as to on New Year's Day.

Send me a video that says People born in [00:48:00] 2024, people born in 1985 and they're like laughing. And then 20, 25 hits people in 1985 like, oh shit. I.

Cy: Yeah, I think she, I think she told me about that because, because she asked me and she was like, is Jen, is Jen [00:48:15] turning 40 this year? I was like, what a random thing to ask me, number one, because I haven't talked to Jen in like, I don't know how long. But I think so, I think that's the math maybe. So she must have been.

Jen: About [00:48:30] Jen?

Cy: Yeah, I was like, I was like, we, I just made dinner for the kids and I'm you, I was asking you about the laundry. Why are we talking about Jenica? I love her. I, I miss her. But so that must have been, because I was, I, to this day, I was clueless as to [00:48:45] why she

Jen: That's where it stopped. She didn't elaborate at all

Cy: Yeah,

no. She just stopped and I was like, yeah, I think so.

And she was like, huh. Okay. Yeah, this is like dropping it on me. I was like, well, now I'm doing math about myself. I was like, well, I'm not that far away either. [00:49:00] Right? Yeah. And I was like, well, great. I'm gonna be 40 in, in, in like three years. Oh, great. What? Wow. That's, yeah. Thanks, babe. So yeah,

Jen: that sounds like a very, very Jetta thing to

do, so

Cy: if it makes you feel better, [00:49:15] we all suffered

from her sending that, so,

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Well that's fine. Whatever. We're gonna, we're gonna celebrate. I'm like,

DeJah: I'm excited. Yeah. Listen. You gotta turn. You gotta turn it around. This whole bs. About how 40. It's like me is age of [00:49:30] enlightenment.

Jen: Oh no. I listen. It's the

DeJah: age of enlightenment. My ear, the early part of my thirties.

All of your fucks leave at 40. Just, you just,

Cy: How many, how many do I have

Jen: No moss. Yes. You know, I, I'm honestly quite excited you know, the, the [00:49:45] early part of my thirties, a little rough. And, but everything has just gotten exponentially better and just amazing and the, all the things and the people in my life and, present, company included. It, it's, it's great. So I can only, I can't wait to see what the next 10 [00:50:00] years, hold the next decade. You'll have

DeJah: moments where you'll sit down and all of a sudden you're like, damn.

Jen: Yeah, I did that shit.

DeJah: Yes. And, and, and things that you were like, oh, that would've drama, whatever.

You're like, I don't even think, 'cause I didn't [00:50:15] give a shit. Yeah. I had no fucks left in him. I didn't, my brain didn't even allow time. Your peace is held more.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. I'm still protecting that shit. You're on that

DeJah: one. Yes. Yes. Under Under Armour. Should not be protect, must protect this house. Most protective peace.

Jen: Oh man. [00:50:30] Alright guys. Happy 20, 25. Way to kick it off. Will sigh. Thank you so, so much. Mr. Author, middle corporate manager. That sounds. Very vague and not fun.[00:50:45]

Cy: because the job is fake.

Jen: yeah.

Cy: It is fake. So,

Jen: And just good luck on and wishing you all of the success on your book. Everyone go out there and read a Law of a Nova

Thank you again for listening and tuning into this.

DeJah: Can I, can I, can I say

Jen: no?

DeJah: [00:51:00] No.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: I'm just kidding. I'm gonna so I wanna say tha thanks for joining us, man.

I really appreciate seeing ya. And look forward to the questions that I'm gonna have for book two that I will provide in writing.

Cy: Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. No, I, I [00:51:15] wish I could have been there with you guys and got a beverage afterwards. A non-alcoholic one

DeJah: The the next, next rare time that you have adult only time.

Cy: Yep.

DeJah: Yeah,

Jen: so we'll see you in 2026. Yeah. Right, right, right.

Cy: I was, yeah, that, [00:51:30] that feels about right. I'll go ahead and pin y'all in.

Jen: Yes. Yeah. Get it in the books now, man.

Cy: yep.

Jen: start reaching out to the actors now. Yes, good luck with all of your earworms. May you all get to peaceful sleep and not have them keep you up at night and we look forward to rambling on [00:51:45] later. Love you guys.

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