Ramblings of a Restless Mind

29 Ramblings of a Restless Mind
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Jen: [00:00:00] Maybe don't burn your phone yet. It's a, it's a Verizon. Not a, not a phone thing, not a Google thing. So

DeJah: a rare day I'm making phone calls. That shit fucking happens. Yeah,

Jen: yeah. It was, it was.

And

DeJah: I'm immediately like, burn the robot phone down.

Jen: I still, I'm so, like, whenever I use ai, I use like, please and thank you. And that's great. But also please add this like using manners and maybe when the bots take over they will spare me. I've been polite. You

DeJah: they're gonna state murder. My, they're gonna be like that one.

She was a, oh, I'm on that list bitch. You know, I fucking hell,

Joe: they're, they're more likely to be like, what a polite battery.

Jen: Hello. Thick thighs. Save lives. Cheers to that.

DeJah: And I'm living proof.[00:01:00]

Jen: You know, I, people should be friends with us. I don't, I mean, listen, Joe's become a friend, right? We could. It's more than an acquaintance.

DeJah: Yeah,

Jen: sure. Joe's like, I was

Joe: drinking. It wasn't a pot. I was finishing a sip.

Jen: Joe's like, technically you pay me. So I think I have to say, yes, baby.

Joe: Is this what an entourage feels like?

Jen: Yes. What's up guys? I'm Jen. Um, hopefully this is not your first time tuning in, but if it is also welcome. We're so glad you're here. Enjoy the ride. We don't know where we're gonna go ever, whenever we start these things. And of course, sometimes

DeJah: we don't even acknowledge that we're, we're outta touch. We just start talking

Jen: and

DeJah: just Yeah.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: It happens.

Jen: So welcome to our brains a bit. Yeah,

DeJah: exactly. Exactly.

Jen: We hope you're doing well. We hope you're doing better than well. We hope you're doing fantastic. Living in the dream. Um, and if not, you'll get there.

DeJah: So in other words, this is our. [00:02:00] Discombobulated.

Jen: Yeah. We don't, this is the time of year where like we've made it to to the end of February and we are really fucking sick of the cold.

And North Carolina is obviously not that cold. We've had a couple of cold snaps though.

DeJah: Yeah. But

Jen: it's been that have kind of tested, but it is nothing. It's bizarre

DeJah: up and down and, but yeah. I mean, but climate change is not real. Not real guys.

Jen: Yeah. And the earth is flat. Yes, absolutely. So we're kind of in this space where like we're ready.

I have a cousin

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DeJah: fell right the fuck up. So proof.

Jen: You know what, we're okay. We all in this room. You know what, I don't know, I don't know if Joe believes the earth is flat, but if he's a flat earth. But I can say that I have been skydiving twice and in both of those times when I jumped out the plane, I can see the curve of the earth.

Yeah. So it is ramp.

DeJah: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Jen: I don't know. Anyway,

DeJah: I've been high enough in a plane flying where I can fucking see the goddamn horizon. Like, yeah. Do these people not fly? I don't know it. Like I am [00:03:00] fascinated.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Like even just like you, it's amazing the, um, and I, I'm, I fucking am an adrenaline junkie.

And so watching the, the dude that, um, jumped from actual outer space, skydiving wise, yeah, yeah. It was one of those, um, red Bull.

Jen: Is

DeJah: this person

Jen: still alive?

DeJah: Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Wow,

Jen: that's,

DeJah: yeah,

Jen: that's next level.

DeJah: Yeah. Yeah. It's, it is crazy. And same with like the, the guys at, you know, squirrel suit.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Like, yeah.

Jen: Yeah. I don't really have a real big desire to do like bungee jumping.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. No, my neck, no fuck off.

Jen: No. I, I don't know why, for some reason skydiving seems way more secure to me than jumping around large rocks.

DeJah: Mm. Yeah.

Jen: And mounted landscape.

DeJah: Yeah. Well, I mean, I, Superman zi lined through the Costa Rican jungle, and that was the, the greatest thing that I've ever done.

In the closest thing I've, I've come to religious [00:04:00] awakening. Um, yeah. I mean,

Jen: yeah, we tried in Jamaica and you broke a nail.

DeJah: I mean it, and that was the kitty version.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. I know.

DeJah: I was so mad. There's a hole in that glove, man. Yeah. That was sad. Sad state of affairs. But, you know, sacrifices have to be made for fun.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: It, it just, it is. Yep. Like agreed. It's a thing. Yeah.

Jen: It has to be a priority. Um, but yeah, so, you know, heading into March where it could be cold, it could be warm, you never know, but we are all desperately now ready. The

DeJah: freeways could be on fire. We, we don't know it here.

Jen: Yeah. In

DeJah: North Carolina. Like North Acki style.

Crazy, crazy chaos.

Jen: March Madness. Big thing, you know? Yeah. Triangle. Mm-hmm. Duke and Carolina. And, and state.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Jen: So, um, I, we are also will be heading into pollen season then very, very quickly. Look to

DeJah: me, no,

Jen: one of the less pleasant experie God here, whenever you just see that yellow haze going on, but

DeJah: that's some fucking Stephen King style shit.

When you just see like [00:05:00] a, an amalgamous like form of good word. Just like a,

Jen: a cake on

DeJah: down the street. I have sat on my porch.

Jen: Yeah. It's crazy. It is. It's intense. It's yes,

DeJah: yes.

Jen: Not pleasant. I don't even,

DeJah: you can't, and you can't like, be like, if you've never seen it, you, it's very hard to describe like watching a, yeah,

Jen: there will be pictures from like the airport or you know, like the weather stations that have the, the cameras and stuff up and you, it's literally just a yellow haze.

A true. It's like smoke, just

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: Yellow. It is, it's unreal. It's,

DeJah: yes, it's cohesive, and yet not like, it's, it's fascinating but terrifying because you can't breathe.

Jen: Yeah. And

DeJah: I don't, and it covers everything. Yep.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: And you gotta, like, you gotta wash your car because it's not good for the pollen to sit mm-hmm.

On the paint of your car, but then as soon as you do like p

DeJah: mm-hmm.

Jen: Right back. Um, but it's also like, I don't even have seasonal allergies, but I still can't breathe when I walk outside just because it's so thick. Oh.

DeJah: I am dead. I have to take allergy [00:06:00] pills every day.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: But I, I'm allergic to oak trees and I live in the City of Oaks.

Oh. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. So there's that. But I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Jen: yeah. So that's where we are.

DeJah: No, I just, I mean, it is, and some years are better than others, but yeah. It, it is a true glorifying. Horrifying natural experience. Mm-hmm. Of the just sperm dump.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: That nature does. Nature sperm dump. I mean, where nature's like, you wanna know who's boss bitch like Yes.

Yes. I stand in awe.

Jen: That's what I'm gonna try to think of. Whenever pollen FIPSE happens this year. Just like, oh, nature is just big dick energy right now.

DeJah: That's right. As she fucking should. As she should. That's right.

Jen: I love it. Yeah. We'll, like AI can't fix this yet. Like we don't have an AI for [00:07:00] pollen and allergies head to fix these things.

Oh

DeJah: no. And if it did, I would be terrified.

Jen: Yeah. I

DeJah: mean, I would be scared out of my mind.

Jen: AI is, where do we sit with ai?

DeJah: We gotta slow down, we gotta start labeling some shit.

Jen: It's ' cause it's come, I mean, just from, I mean, a version of ai, but do

DeJah: you mean like politically in our country where president signed in, where the states don't have rights to defy using and having ai?

That or Okay. Didn't

Jen: know that happened.

DeJah: Oh, yeah.

Jen: I use you

DeJah: mm-hmm.

Jen: For my political news. Um, but I, yes.

DeJah: Massive infringement of states rights.

Jen: Yes. Well, that tracks, um,

DeJah: it shouldn't track from the fucking

Jen: No, it shouldn't. But for the current, but the g

DeJah: holy shit. And it's true.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Yeah.

Jen: But I, AI in general, I think it obviously has been a buzzword for a while and a lot of people are adopting it in different ways, but there's been smaller, less advanced versions of AI in our world for a long time.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

Jen: You know, but [00:08:00] now it has holy shit evolved. Like, and it's even gotten, and I remember, um, you know, with, with picture and video generation with generative AI and stuff like, and my mom would send me a video on Instagram or something and she'd be, and I'd be like, mom.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

Jen: Must ai.

Joe: Yeah.

Jen: And she's just like, how can you tell?

And I'm like, I don't know. Because we weren't, we're in a generation that, like, we were in, we lived a life that wasn't, like cell phones weren't a thing, the internet wasn't a thing. But then a large majority of our life has also included that. So I don't know if we just have a different eye for those kinds of things.

Um, but it it, but it's, it could be real tricky. I've gotten, I got, got, not in like a bad way, but with like a video of a cute animal, you know? Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, blah. And then my brother calls me out, oh, L AI is a hell of a drug. And I'm like, what? Let the animal be real. Let the animal be hugging.

DeJah: Oh, I know.

Yeah. I, I am terrified. I'm terrified of ai. Um, I'm terrified how far [00:09:00] it's already gone. Um, fucking. Grok should be abolished. The fact that it, you can command it to undress a picture of a child and it does.

Jen: Mm.

DeJah: Um, it should be abolished. Anything, anything that is in any way aiding, um, promoting encouraging pedophilia.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Should have a real hard stamp of No.

Jen: Yeah. Why is that in the database? That, that the data that's been fed into the system

DeJah: and unfortunately it, it being used for that. A lot. A lot. Um, and. Yeah. That's, that's protecting pedophile bullshit. That's

Jen: for the record. I use AI sometimes, but I do not use it.

DeJah: No, I am, I am. And again, I'm talking about an imagery.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Okay. I am not, I'm not talking about someone trying [00:10:00] to draft an email. Right. Like I, I, I mean, I fully understand, although I also think that there is a severe degrading of our society by that use. Because I know some people when they email me by the use of ai and obviously what is their actual brain response, right?

Yeah. Because if you've already given me a, a database of response that came from you and then spontaneously your vocabulary

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: And your silicone improves, right? Like, oh, I see.

Jen: How do they,

DeJah: and like, okay. But if it's like so superfluous that I'm like, just. Fucking get to the goddamn point. I don't need you to monologue in the middle.

Yeah. Like, you know, sometimes it really like draws out these like big, like leadership styles. Like this is obvious, like, but

Jen: yeah.

DeJah: Um, yeah, I, and I think it takes away independent thought. Um, and I think that it, I teachers are [00:11:00] shockingly more aware that children are unable to write and that, um, children are unable to differentiate some com basic common sense things because we're in an actionless world where AI interprets and does too much for them.

Jen: Hmm.

DeJah: Um, which

Jen: that, and that's my

DeJah: question too, for species is a little bit scary. We gotta be able to survive on our own guys.

Jen: What, how is that regulated, monitored, whatever for, for like schoolwork?

DeJah: Um, as in, what do you mean?

Jen: So, I mean, like, if a kid has an assignment, like, and you, you just. Go to AI to get the answer and then put that as your answer.

Like, how I don't, none of us have,

DeJah: they don't, they don't

Jen: kids, kids

DeJah: in school right now, but they don't, we, we do not put enough money into education to, to have teachers fucking running every no fucking answer to see if it's been AI generated. And it a hundred percent is used all the time.

Jen: Yeah,

DeJah: I know.

Because I have honest children.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Um, [00:12:00]

Jen: so that's right. I forgot what, you have one that's, that graduated from high school this year, but

DeJah: very, very soon. Yeah. So like him. Yeah, he absolutely is like, yeah. You know, where his buddies, his friends get, you know, use whatever. Um, but, and I'm like, I cannot fault you.

I would use whatever I had to my advantage, but I do obviously warn him and talk to him about like. You've got to be able to produce these answers on your own. You can't, you know, if you can't explain it, like my role with all the kids, everybody has always been 80%. If you just owe 80% of something, you can explain it to somebody else.

I'm not asking you to be a perfect fucking genius, right? Like, so I, I think that you need to be able to at least have fundamentally built 80% of your response if you put it into ai.

Jen: Like, yeah, I mean, I've, I've used it for work for like, I don't know, social media caption too. I still look over it, right?

Mm-hmm. 'cause I don't want it to sound, you know, exactly. But I, it has made my days more efficient.

DeJah: Oh. And in that way, fantastic for marketing. Sure. [00:13:00] Great. Yeah, of course. We're, that's literally what marketing has been of all time, right? It's a word generator. How can we toss alert word salad, right. To entice you.

Jen: Mm-hmm. Well, and graphics, it's, it's gotta be graphics now because people have attention spans and ads. But yeah. And, but I think also it can be somewhat analytical as well. Um, as far as analyzing data you know, within, if you're looking for patterns and trends within like KPIs and work and stuff like that, like it can be helpful, but, oh, there does have to be a human oversight and element to it.

Like you can't just be like, and now my life is ai, you know, like, it's Correct. Joe, I'd imagine you not to throw under the bus, but I'd imagine you use it quite a bit.

Joe: Yeah, I use the AI a lot. It's, it's made a lot of stuff easier. Um, it used to be fairly difficult to say, like write a custom WordPress plugin, but now if you understand the prompt mm-hmm.

It's just like people who are good at Google, like,

DeJah: yeah.

Joe: Oh, I need that. Good

DeJah: at Google.

Joe: No,

DeJah: it's true.

Joe: Yeah. If you know how [00:14:00] to say it to Google what you want, you're get better results. What command prompts thing

DeJah: will lead to the, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe: And I think, I don't know, I think what people said when it came out, how far it'd be already, I mean, we obviously haven't been that far.

Um, I think a lot of people like to get scared about it. I think in my mind, what I hope will happen, this is the optimistic version, is people will overdo it with it. AI SLAP will ruin a good portion of our experience of the internet. New social media networks will arri arise that will say, we do not allow ai.

And it'll go, it'll start to champion things like human thought and creativity. Yes. And that could be good, that could be a positive, but I think it's kind of a tool. I think people give it more credit. It's a, it's another tool. It's a cool tool. It's something I don't think you can compare it to. Anything in the past, like, I don't think it's, you can't be like, well, it was crazy when we got telephones.

Well, it's not a telephone man. It's

DeJah: exactly.

Joe: It's, it's a robot that knows everything. It's

Jen: not that life [00:15:00] changing.

DeJah: Well, it's still dependent

Jen: on human input,

DeJah: but, yeah. Well that's, that's exactly it. It is the algorithm of humanity. What, what they've been doing for a very long time is feeding in our purchase data.

Right. Which is our in intake data, which tells you everything about a person. Like one of the greatest things I ever did in college was a garbology study. You study what you throw away.

Jen: Hmm.

DeJah: Right. Like, and classifying it and you know, then comparing it to people around you and their families and stuff.

'cause I was older, there were people older when I was in college and, um, it was just fascinating.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Right. Like, um, but I mean.

Jen: Yeah, it's it, it, but to your point, Joe, of like trends, because I felt like before COVID, I. We, you know, it was all about the videos and pictures needed to be polished and professional and all this kinds of stuff.

And [00:16:00] then we went into COVID and we lost all of this natural personal human connection, right? And so then what came out of that is that we were all craving imperfect connection. Like we, we gave, we started giving more grace because we all move to virtual meetings. And so your kid might run by with nothing but a t-shirt on with just Winnie the Pooh in it all across the place during your meeting, right?

And so there, there you got more grace with those. We were like, oh, you know what? Yeah, we, we remember people are human, you know? Yeah. And so then we crave that connection and, and that piece. And I wonder if. The more, kinda like what you were saying, Joe, like the more the AI is used and the more that everyone is aware of it, we're gonna kind of see that cycle again.

Like, okay. Mm-hmm. We want, we don't want the fake anymore. Like we want your real thought. We want the people that get the Nobel Peace, peace prizes legitimately. Um, so yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting. It's interesting to see those trends.

DeJah: Yeah. But why, you know, just by using the basic data of what, you know, we take in, they use it as propaganda against [00:17:00] people, right?

Like putting out ai so, so much of the bots, right? The, the stuff that's fed out that's fake mm-hmm. And stuff, right. Is, is feeding off that data and then manipulating their algorithms right. At what they're picking, what they're choosing, what they're liking. And what that's doing is sociological control.

Jen: Mm.

DeJah: And that is by design. Absolutely. By design. And which is terrifying. 'cause that is ai, right? That's not labeled. It's being consumed as fact. Yeah. And it's having influence and impact and it's, it's damaging. People are making choices that are extremely self-defeating, believing that they're making them in an extremely patriotic gesture of creating something great.

Right. Not realizing, holy shit, this it's hurt you.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Your, your bleeding. They're not right. It's like they, I mean, [00:18:00] just it unfortunately, it just, I feel like they've weaponed and desire, and it just goes back to the concept of like the welfare queen, right? Like there's, there's somebody to blame and they're just trying to make you fear and to have to blame.

But the reality is the welfare queen is the fucking oligarchs, you know, one of my favorite fucking political cartoons. And I wish That's where like when it's real and it's labeled and it has impact, like, that's why I love like political cartoons because it's. They're so simplistic in its message. Mm-hmm.

Right. It's got fucking Trump and Elon in the center with their fucking cookies. Got the fucking MAGA supporter on his side. He's got one cookie, he's got the Democrat on the other side. His plate is empty, and Trump and Elon are going, you gotta, you gotta watch out for that fucker. He's coming for your cookies.

Right. It's, it AI is being used against us already and it terrifies the shit out of me because where we're currently at, right. And I, I don't see in where we've talked before, a congress who's doing [00:19:00] absolutely fucking fuck all nothing to protect us because that's what we need is protection. I believe it's incredibly advantageous when it comes to like medical, right.

Medical abilities and for what, what it can do to increase odds of safety and success. Mm-hmm. Fuck. Absolutely. Yes. Does it help with fucking businesses and, and generating information for us? F fucking fantastic. But there's gotta be something that has some type of constraint and regulation so that it, it can't be abused, because that's what I think is absolutely fucking happening, is being fucking abused.

But we can't do anything about it.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: And there, there's been, you know, politicians that I fucking disagree with, that I've completely aligned. I, one of these things I would never thought I'd say agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene. No, I fucking on this fucking subject. I agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Right. Like, AI should be fucking regulated [00:20:00] and there should be a gods damn label on it. Like, 'cause like to your, like you said, your generation, but you know, generations before I'm a little bit older, I have less exposure. Two being online.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: I, I find more disconnect with it. And I can imagine someone older than myself who really could be taken in by falsehoods because they don't have that.

Oh, yeah. Conditioning to identify.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Right. And I've, yeah, I've just, all of my personal experiences with some of my older friends who, same thing like your mom, right? Like, look at this. And I'm like, ah, that's completely fake.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Like, that ain't real.

Jen: I mean, if my choice is with my body are regulated, why can't I, I be,

DeJah: oh,

Jen: we're not gonna go down that rabbit hole that, that's for a different episode.

But all right. Well my

DeJah: heart, my soul right

Jen: there. There's that. As I have Gemini up on my computer screen here. [00:21:00] I dunno. Let's light the mood. Joe, you got something for over there?

DeJah: Yeah, man. Let's fucking bring, bring it up a notch.

Joe: I feel like a great use of AI [00:22:00] right now.

Jen: I just hear your, your like DJ Casey Caseon voice every time

Joe: came.

I feel like a great use of AI would be excellent, man. Excellent to play. To play a game. And let's just go ahead and say, we, we don't know how this is gonna go. We're, we're playing this along with you guys and so play along. But remember those little choose your own adventure books.

Jen: Those are my favorite goosebump books.

Same.

Joe: I

DeJah: love them so

Joe: much. Those are great. Yeah. So I, I wrote a big prompt here and I got it in the old chat. GPT in that box. Oh,

Jen: I'm speaking of ai.

Joe: And, um, it's going to give us like the first little bit of a story and then we're going to choose what happens next.

Jen: Mm-hmm. Okay. So what do we do if we don't, if we don't agree?

Do we all have to agree on what happens next to be able to move to the next step? I'm assuming?

Joe: Yeah, we got,

Jen: okay.

Joe: I assume because, okay. None of this is real.

Jen: Okay.

Joe: That we could also just say, say serious business

Jen: guys. Like what are the

Joe: rules? It's gonna give us like three choices when we'll be like false.

We want you to burn it down and it'll probably go with us.

Jen: Yeah. So

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Jen: gonna see here we're, we're still that option for ourselves. This is perfect. We're gonna test AI right now,

Joe: so here we go. [00:23:00] Alright. This is spin

Jen: that wheel, Johnny,

Joe: this is the subject here. You wake up earlier than expected. No alarm, no urgency.

Your phone is face down on the nights. Suspiciously quiet for once. Nothing is demanding your attention, and that makes you uncomfortable. You sit up aware of a strange sensation, restlessness without a target. I, I feel like I'm being overly dramatic. So far what's happened in this story as you woke up?

All right. Do you a, reach for your phone just to check a few things. B, sit there and let the feeling exist even though it's annoying. Or, c, get up and start a task you've been meaning to do.

Jen: My immediate action is my phone. I'd grab my phone,

DeJah: wait, so I, I have the option of A, grab my phone. B, lay there and think about it.

C get up and do something else.

Joe: Yep.

Jen: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Yeah, I would never choose any of those.

Jen: Well, because I,

DeJah: I would choose option D, which [00:24:00] is, I'm gonna go back to sleep

Jen: because I, because I mean, truly, like for our phones are, it's

DeJah: too early.

Jen: Like if you could, I don't know. There, I think there's a statistic on like, on average how many times people look at their phone throughout a day.

It just becomes a natural habit.

DeJah: I know, and this speaks to the fact that I don't have social media. I, I don't, I don't have that.

Jen: Well, I, I don't necessarily pick it up to look at social media right away, but like to look at the time, because I don't have an alarm clock. My phone is my alarm clock. If I need an alarm clock.

Well see, I've been starting to take my watch off. We both have like Garmin, well, you can see 'em now on the camera. We have Garmin smart watches. But like I take, I've been starting to take my office at night, but 'cause a little green light underneath it and you know, I'm light sensitive Oh yeah. When I sleep.

Um, but yeah. So I don't know what you do whenever we have two different answers.

DeJah: Okay. No, I will. Um, I, if anything Uhhuh right. If it was going to, you

Jen: had to choose between

DeJah: those three. If I had to choose, I'd get up. [00:25:00] I'd get up.

Jen: Okay.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Jen: All right. We'll go with that one.

Joe: So we're gonna get up mm-hmm.

And start a task we've been meaning to do.

DeJah: Yes.

Joe: All right. Let's tell the old chat box beep. B bop B beep. Sound effects brought to

Jen: you by

Joe: Joe. Calculating, calculating, calculating, calculating, calculating. I didn't answer.

DeJah: Enhance, enhance,

Joe: enhance. Yeah, like

DeJah: the super troopers.

Joe: Okay. You decide the feeling is unacceptable and it must be handled.

You swing your legs outta bed with purpose and announce out loud for some reason

Jen: and throw your back out.

Joe: I'll just knock out one thing real quick. 30 minutes later, you're standing in a middle room holding an object. You don't remember picking up deeply invested in a task that was not on your mental list five minutes ago.

Jen: This tracks so much for you. How much weed did you smoke?

Joe: You feel

DeJah: productive. I just woke up

Jen: and

DeJah: I haven't got there yet. Apparently I got my legs out and then all of a sudden I had amnesia for 30 fucking minutes holding an object. I've never that weed that You don't remember that shot weed? Yeah. I had [00:26:00] blackened out from weed, man.

Jen: Sorry Joe. Go on.

Joe: I like where this is going. You feel productive, but you also feel slightly feral as you begin the task. A new thought said, yeah, that does check. If I finish this, what then? And at that exact moment, something interrupts you. Dun, dun, dun. What is it? A, A notification appears for something you absolutely did not sign up for, but now you must understand.

B, you notice a minor imperfection in the room that suddenly feels morally wrong to ignore morally. Or C you remember an idea from years ago, half formed unnecessary, but now it feels very urgent.

Jen: Oh man.

DeJah: I mean, I feel like I chose the last one, so, ah.

Remember you have amnesia.

Jen: Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I'm holding an object that I don't remember acquiring, apparently.

Joe: I hope, I hope that this [00:27:00] doesn't even recall and explain the object ever. That's

DeJah: a, and the object is morally, morally

Jen: well. No, that was it. You noticed something in the room that now it morally seemed like you had to address this infect.

Yes. That you had. What was, what was the third scenario?

Joe: You remember an idea from years ago, half formed unnecessary, but now urgent.

Jen: I'm gonna go with that one.

DeJah: That sounds What happened. What happened to me?

Joe: Right.

Jen: Because you're just like, how did this get here? You just, and then all of a sudden it makes you think of something else and then just like, oh yes.

Gonna do that now,

Joe: calculating.

The idea hits you like a pop-up ad in your own brain. You remember vividly a project you thought of years ago. Not a good idea, not a bad idea, just an idea. One you never wrote down, never acted on, and absolutely did not need to resurface at 8:17 AM You can't even remember why it mattered. The only, the only thought at the time is this will definitely matter later.

Congratulations. It's later. Your [00:28:00] brain begins pitching. And with the confidence of a TED talk, the evidence of your dream, you have remember the idea, oddly specific. What kind of idea is it a, a business idea that would require a website logo and explaining it to people who didn't ask B Oh, fuck

Jen: that.

Joe: A creative project that no one needs but feels spiritually urgent, or C, life optimization system that promises clarity and peace, but somehow involves color coding.

DeJah: Oh, can I answer this one please? Yeah, you

Jen: take, we'll go back and

DeJah: forth. We'll, volley fucking door number three. Let me goddamn color code and organize and master and dominate this motherfucker.

Jen: Oh, si. Sidebar. With all this ai, why do we still not have the closet choosing capabilities that, um, Claire was it that had in, um, oh my God, clueless.

DeJah: Oh,

Jen: do you remember the thing that she had on her computer? The selected you could peruse all the clothes and put it together a wardrobe. Does that actually exist anywhere?

Joe: Yeah, Amazon makes it.

Jen: Well, [00:29:00]

Joe: they sell like a mirror and you can shop right on Amazon, but it's not cool like that. It's just to sell you clothes.

Jen: Anyway, sidebar. Sorry, that was, yeah, my brain went

Joe: first. Okay, so if you're paying attention, um, what happened was we woke up our alarm went off and then we lost consciousness. Found ourselves in the center room, holding

DeJah: a box,

Joe: holding an object.

DeJah: Yeah,

Joe: we don't know what that is. An

DeJah: object. Oh,

Joe: okay. Um, and then we felt.

A serious urge to do something that we forgot about

DeJah: Uhhuh.

Joe: And, um, what we decided is that now it's our life mission to build a life optimization system that promises clarity and peace, but somehow involves color coding.

DeJah: I love this. Yes. This gives me peace. Just thinking about that. I, I'm excited. I am excited.

Let's go. Yes.

Joe: All right. Of course. It's a system, not just any system, a framework one, you're suddenly convinced could fix everything if implemented correctly and without interruption for the next 72 hours. It involves color coding, possibly layers. Fuck yes, definitely categories that seemed obvious at the time, but now [00:30:00] require a flow chart to explain.

You cannot remember what problem it originally solved, but you know, it would feel incredible to finish it. Your brain starts assessing colors with authority. Blue, calm yellow equals momentum. Red urgency green. Who the fuck knows you. Open up the notes app immediately. Create folders, immediately regret naming those folders, and suddenly a new urge appears.

The system needs a physical component. What do you do next? A buy supplies online immediately, regardless of cost of relevance. B, repurpose random objects you already own in a way that feels unhinged, but justified or see, stop everything to research the best way to build this system. Knowing full well what that means.

Jen: Oh,

DeJah: wait, so we, we can We can shop it out, right? Shop it out. Yeah. And go online, or we can scavenge it out.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Right?

Joe: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Or we can what? Research it out. Research.

Jen: Research. Research. The way to do [00:31:00] it.

Joe: Research

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DeJah: a way, no matter the outcome.

Joe: Research the best way to build the system. Knowing full well what that means.

DeJah: Yeah. What does that mean? Doesn't say what you mean. Yeah. Yeah.

Jen: Are we answering this? Like what I probably actually would do?

DeJah: Yeah. No kidding, right? Yeah,

Jen: because I am, because that's the case I like, I would go with BI would want the immediacy, right? Like I wouldn't want to order something online and have to wait, even if it's overnight delivery.

DeJah: Uhhuh,

Jen: I'd wanna, when I'm on a task like that, like I wanna do everything I can to get it done right then and there.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. Oh, not me. I am going to plot the greatest long term outcome possible. So you're ing so you're going to, oh, fuck yes. Okay. We are going to tab and sub layer.

Jen: All right. Joe, what would

DeJah: if you, I mean, this is what,

Jen: yeah, you answer this one, Joe.

Joe: I feel like this describes what happens to me most nights. [00:32:00] Okay? I feel like I have this idea that's gonna change the world, and I wake up and I try to explain it to my wife, and it's clearly just shit.

Jen: Joe Gibberish

Joe: that has no, like, it makes so much sense.

It had colors and charts. I don't know what I would do. I think in this case, what I would do is I would I would definitely hit up that Amazon and just start buying stuff. All.

Jen: We're gonna, all right, we're going balls to the wall. Just buying stuff. Let's, let's stand design, let's go, let's do it.

Joe: We're buying.

Okay? You don't hesitate. You commit. Within minutes, you're purchasing items with the confidence of someone who's already succeeded. Color coded tabs, a whiteboard that's much larger than it needs to be. Specialty markers described as executive. Something called a modular productivity rail system that you do not remember adding to your cart, but feels important.

Brilliant. A total flashes on your screen. You nod. This is an investment. As you hit place, order a strange column washes over. You followed immediately by panic because now the system is real and you haven't decided where it will live. You [00:33:00] scan your space mentally rearranging furniture like a deranged interior designer.

Where will the system go? A, the wall you see every day turning the system into a silent authority, figure B, a hidden corner where it can be a perfect before anybody sees it, including you or C, somewhere wildly inappropriate, forcing the system into your daily life, whether you like it or not.

DeJah: Okay. First of all, I would like to say that I couldn't possibly have chosen option A in the previous answer about shopping, because technically I'd already done that and had all the supplies in my office, therefore, I was ready for organized analysis.

Yeah.

Jen: Well, here we are. We're, we're all playing into this adventure.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Jen: So we have the thing, so where is this system going?

DeJah: Well, I in my mind, already have this, like, it's, [00:34:00] it's just a vision board, and, and so my answer would be it's right on top of my desk. I see. And the wall that you see every day day, like taking over authority next to my neon sign, like that is Yes.

This is because if you're gonna do the damn thing. Do the damn thing. Yeah. Like, yeah, that makes

Joe: sense to me. Yeah. Right, right. Where you can see it

DeJah: every

Joe: day.

DeJah: Yep.

Joe: Yeah. Yeah. Thinking answer bebo boop boop beep bop bop. Buckle up. You choose the wall, not just Aw wall. The wall. The one you face first thing every morning.

The wall that you know, the wall that knows things about you. By lunchtime, it's become less of a surface and more of a presence. As you begin mounting the system,

Jen: it just got sexual, oh, those thing. The wall that knows things about you that you mounting it brackets, see

Joe: something shifts.

Jen: [00:35:00] Go on. I'm,

Joe: my interest is peaked. The, the colors don't just organize. They judge. Blue feels disappointed. Yellow is aggressive. Red's an asshole. Green remains ominously, undefined. He stepped back. The wall looks alive. Not literally, but also not, not. That's when the system does something unexpected. A new category appears in your mind, not a color, not a task, a question.

It echoes softly like it's coming from the wall itself. What are you trying to avoid right now? No. No. You laugh out loud nervously because the ridiculousness walls don't talk. Systems don't ask questions, but the feeling doesn't go away. The system demands input. What do you do? A, add a new color. One you've never used before.

'cause it feels like a design problem. B, try to out productivity, the discomfort by adding more structure, more rules, and more boxes or c. Step back and speak to the wall like it's a coworker who crossed the line.[00:36:00]

DeJah: I'm gonna go with D I'm gonna D just says,

Jen: fuck that. Okay.

DeJah: I'm gonna say I would like to tell myself to go to therapy.

Jen: We're at lunchtime now, so how, how much have you ingested as well? So, but the, the last part was like that you was asking a question, right?

Joe: Yeah,

DeJah: yeah. Like, so are

Jen: missing your

DeJah: life, right? So yeah.

Jen: So I'd probably talk to the wall like I would answer the

DeJah: question. Yeah. See what

Jen: I'm so pragmatically brand

DeJah: or, all

Joe: right, let's switch games.

We're switching off.

DeJah: Wait,

Joe: is

DeJah: Craig, no, we're not switching. Craig mad to just start talking to the wall

Jen: to the question that was in front of me. I would wanna a answer the question.

Joe: No, we're gonna start, we're gonna start treating like computer. Where

DeJah: is this on Ghost? Like do you.

Joe: We're gonna start treating like the old text base games.

So we're say we talked to the wall?

DeJah: Yes. Oh, okay. We, this side. I loved about those books that you could check, right? You the wall.

Joe: What do we say?

DeJah: What do we say to wall? We talk to

Joe: the wall. We say,

DeJah: okay. And we're answering the question, what do you, [00:37:00] what are you putting off?

Joe: Yeah. What are you scared? What are you trying to avoid right now?

DeJah: What are we trying to, and we're put, we're gonna put, okay, what are we trying to avoid right now? True self love,

tear

Joe: thinking. BB, B, B. You look directly at the wall, your wall covered in color, ambition and mild regret. And you say it true self-love. Yeah. The rooms goes quiet in a way that means something important just happened. The colors freeze. Then without permission, the system responds. Not out loud, not in words, but in a sudden unmistakable knowing.

Blue softens. Yellow stops vibrating red unplugs itself and gently falls to the floor. That's right, and green finally reveals itself. Green was never a task. Green is rest. Yes, the wall begins rearranging itself, not [00:38:00] physically, but emotionally. Boxes unlabeling themselves. Arrows turned into question. Marks entire section simply opted out.

You feel a wave of clarity followed by immediate embarrassment, like realizing you've been aggressively organizing your life. Instead of listening to it, the wall asks you one final thing, not accusing, not demanding, but curious. Oh, if you didn't have to become better, what would you allow yourself to be?

Your body reacts before your brain. Does your shoulders drop your jaw on clinches a laugh sneaks out. Half relief, half surrender. Final choice leading to the ending. Do you a erase one entire section of the wall and sit down on the floor doing nothing on purpose B, you leave the wall exactly at as is. As it is, imperfect and unfinished words are hard, a lot of words, and walk away without fixing it or see you ceremoniously, remove one marker, snap it in half, and declare the system

Jen: done.

Oh man.

Joe: Like, [00:39:00] like I heavy.

Jen: Yeah. We, we got a

DeJah: lot of, absolutely.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Yeah, because I mean, symbolism there absolutely. You, you've just organized your entire life to realize that you can organize your entire life to only a certain point unless mm-hmm. You have true enlightenment, which is. Self love. Love, yeah.

Jen: And green re revealed itself as what? Filing that asshole

DeJah: green. No, no green is rest.

Jen: Rest. That's

DeJah: it. Finally

Jen: revealed itself

DeJah: as rest with everything. And, and when you That is why the power of truth, self truth.

Jen: How seriously we trying to be through this whole thing?

Joe: How, how, how earnest this story got like

Jen: Yeah.

Joe: It became a metaphor. '

Jen: cause listen, because we started like equating some of these things to like sexual things, whatever you were talking about. Like yellow stopped, vibrating red unplugged itself. Green was rest.

I was like, well, okay, we had an orgasm. That's what happened. Got it.

DeJah: Yep. I was like, this [00:40:00] is, this is true control. When everything relaxed, right. When everything went into its true place. Then, then your true path is exposed

Jen: for the sake of, because it kind of sounds fun in that last, the last three options there.

I wanna break the marker.

Joe: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Energy. We reject the system we

Jen: were trying to

Joe: build.

Jen: Rage against the machine.

Joe: Rage against the machine. All right. See,

Jen: wish we could play music but not get sued.

Joe: Break the marker. Thinking you take the marker. The executive one, the expensive one. The one that promised clarity in bold, confident strokes.

DeJah: The one that popped up with a warranty offer. It was so expensive and you declined correct

Joe: and you snap it in half.

DeJah: You knew you weren't getting anything back.

Joe: It doesn't break cleanly. It never does. That's, that's so stupid.

DeJah: Mark. [00:41:00] Marker Sprays

Joe: everywhere across.

DeJah: Get

Joe: yourself together,

DeJah: man. Serious. Okay.

Joe: It never does.

There's a small pop, a flick of ink on your fingers. Imperfect human. The wall doesn't protest. It collapses. It doesn't demand replacement. Instead, something remarkable happens. Nothing. The system doesn't need finishing the wall doesn't need fixing. You don't need optimizing. You sit there for a moment surrounded by colors that no longer feel like instructions.

I feel like days is just high enough to really be enjoying this, this, just

DeJah: all of this.

Joe: She's

DeJah: just

Joe: enough.

DeJah: Sounds like it was written by fucking lonely Incel, like the level of just unnecessary language is, oh, amazing. God. God, this

Jen: is fantastic. Please, please finish

DeJah: this. Oh my God.

Joe: Restlessness wasn't the enemy.

It was a [00:42:00] signal that you've been avoiding yourself. The broken marker stays on the floor like a small ceremonial relic. You stand up, not energized, not enlightened, just lighter. And for the first time all day, you don't reach for anything.

DeJah: Oh my God.

Joe: Closing music.

Jen: I love that. Like if you really look at, listen, I know that was a lot amazing, but like we started off,

DeJah: holy shit,

Jen: waking up early and noticing that there was nothing happening.

Right. And we ended with there being nothing happening. Yes. So it came full circle.

DeJah: So our

Joe: entire story

DeJah: but

Jen: just was about

DeJah: nothing. Just your it I, the fact that it was like. A small amount of ink was on your finger. You are meaningless.

Jen: But also the imagery, because I'm like, okay, the fuck.

Joe: I feel like if you wanna think of it really cynically, it's like this is what AI thinks of us. Like go ahead, do anything. Doesn't matter exactly

DeJah: what I'm saying.

Jen: It doesn't matter.

DeJah: Yeah. But [00:43:00] air's written

Joe: good

DeJah: job, right? Yeah. Oh my God, man.

Joe: Good job. You bought some stuff.

Good job

DeJah: today.

Jen: Amazing. Yeah, we spent a lot of money and now it's all meaningless. And that is capitalism.

Joe: Oh, hold on. I gotta, funny thing, but the

Jen: colors

DeJah: seems softer. Mommy,

Joe: please give our story a title

and we'd like to thank you for listening to the day the system stopped working.

DeJah: Yep.

Joe: Or when the marker snapped, or the wall that asked too much or. Executive markers ruined our morning.

DeJah: Oh, it, it has to be the wall that asks too much as we had an existential crisis. Yeah. Given a small amount of ink upon thine finger.

Holy shit.

Jen: Wow.

DeJah: Yeah.

Jen: Wow.

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: Um, well thanks

DeJah: for going on a into the void, nothing journey with us. Yes.

Jen: And that, that's where AI can take. You

DeJah: see what I [00:44:00] was talking about? For the

Jen: need for regulations?

DeJah: Just circle

Jen: back. Oh man. But that's crazy that like, it can just give us a scenario based. Game to go, you know?

And now we have content for a podcast that may or may not go over well.

DeJah: Oh my lord. I mean, who cares? We had fun.

Jen: Yeah, we had fun.

DeJah: Hey,

Jen: we had fun. Yeah. Oh man. Well, onto the other premise of, of what we like to do. I do like that it used it, I picked up on the term restless twice, being part of ramblings of a restless mind.

So Yeah. Think's what? I do appreciate that theme.

Joe: I think that's what it was going for.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Yeah. It was a,

Joe: I feel like overall interesting, the, the story was it's okay to feel restless.

DeJah: Yeah,

Jen: yeah, yeah. It's okay.

Joe: Embrace your restlessness.

DeJah: Absolutely.

Jen: Yeah. And honestly, I think

DeJah: I'd be more so, I'm, I'm really, I I would be worried about us if we had chosen a stay in bed, would we have fallen deeper down the rabbit hole of darkness and peril?

Like I am con I sincerely. Should we play again? Like, [00:45:00] should we open the book and start again? Right, right.

Jen: And choose a different one next time. See where Texas. So we, this episode turns into three hours long. Um. I honestly, so with like the waking up to no noise, I, I, I want to do a different answer. I would look at my phone.

I would be like, why the fuck did my sound machine go off? Why is my death metal sound machine not playing right now? Yes, yes. Because I absolutely would've woken up to that sooner, but, oh, oh, man. Well, thankfully I haven't had to use an alarm clock probably since the last time I got an airplane I had to get up at 3:00 AM or whatever it was to travel.

Oh, yeah.

Joe: Well, we also have a, a non-AI generated human response in the form of a voicemail.

Jen: Oh, how about that? A real human thing. Let's go, let's,

Joe: now that we're finished with our 40 minutes

DeJah: of

Joe: AI slop,

Jen: I pray,

DeJah: right?

Jen: Geez,

DeJah: fucking robots.

Jen: Listen, we never guarantee you what kind of time you're gonna have this.

It's the podcast is Aply named. All right.

DeJah: But, um, I would like to pause and take a moment and say that [00:46:00] again. Google, I'm sorry about my harsh words. I know the way you're

Joe: working

DeJah: on

Joe: our relationship

DeJah: and I just didn't want the progress that we've made to be negated by the conversation that I've had here today.

So, again, not mistake, Google

Jen: I y'all, when the Verizon outage happened a while ago. We didn't know at the time that it was a Verizon outage. I just get a text from Dasia, call me if you get this immediately followed by Call me. And I was like, oh, shit. So I answered the phone and we're chatting. She's like, oh.

So apparently I can receive calls. I just can't make any calls. It's my fucking Google phone. I'm gonna burn this phone if you're listening. Google record me. This is what I'm saying. I going off on a tangent and then I go to leave that, 'cause I'm on wifi. She was at home at one. So I go to leave and then I realize it's a day like a provider issue.

Yes. And that's why I text her.

DeJah: I was like, buddy. And every number I was calling was on Perez.

Jen: Yeah. I was like buddy. Maybe don't burn your phone yet. It's a, it's a [00:47:00] Verizon. Not a, not a phone thing, not a Google thing. So

DeJah: a rare day I'm making phone calls. That shit fucking happens. Yeah,

Jen: yeah. It was, it was.

And

DeJah: I'm immediately like, burn the robot phone down.

Jen: I still, I'm so, like, whenever I use ai, I use like, please and thank you. And that's great. But also please add this like using manners and maybe when the bots take over they will spare me. I've been polite. You

DeJah: they're gonna state murder. My, they're gonna be like that one.

She was a, oh, I'm on that list bitch. You know, I fucking hell,

Joe: they're, they're more likely to be like, what a polite battery.

Jen: Anyway, we digress. Alright. Voicemail hit, hit us with

Caller: it. Hi. I was just wondering this is Apollo. I was wondering why people are losing their food stamps.

Jen: Oh.

Caller: Um. What I'm meaning by that is, you know how [00:48:00] some people are on EBT because they're not able bodied due to existing disability injury or other, maybe even parenting.

And I was just really set back because I had heard a few of my friends have been declined for their service. And it just makes me worry if I'm going to be one of the next ones to have this happen. I just wanted to ramble my endless bullshit to somebody and upset maybe someone that could do something about it, can hear and maybe make an influence.

DeJah: Oh man.

Jen: Wow. Like yeah. Apollo, first of all. Cool fucking name.

DeJah: Yes. Excellent.

Jen: Also, thank you for sharing and, and reaching out and listening, um, and sharing your rambling thoughts 'cause that's what we're here for.

DeJah: Yep. We share your fear, man.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: We share your fear. It's legitimate fear. Feelings are valid because yeah, absolutely.

A [00:49:00] lot of our social services that protect the vulnerable people amongst us are being taken away. Just another act of the oligarchy's control of our, by our country. The big, beautiful bill is not beautiful riddled you know, woven within or so many things just to take away from those that are, have either, you know, even contributed the most from veterans.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: I mean, good god, it, it can't be explained away. So I, I, there's, there's nothing other than. The individuals who are in control of making the laws, the individuals who control that make the laws, that then create the policies and procedures that allow the monies that all of us pay in

Joe: mm-hmm.

DeJah: On our, you know, taxes every fucking month or however you pay at the end of the year, whatever.

Um, but we all contribute those taxes. That is something that I'm seriously, um, I, it's curious to me, I've seen some [00:50:00] content creators talk about how on the right, one of their ideals is to stop paying taxes because they're, they're taking our taxes and they're putting it to what? If it's, if it's not going to the social safety, it's the literal, the social security that's on the check every month.

If those monies aren't being distributed to those, of course

Jen: social security

DeJah: who legitimately need it, we're not talking about fraud. The constant idea of the propaganda of fraud is nothing more than propaganda.

Jen: Has

DeJah: it

Jen: happened? Maybe Sure. Absolutely

DeJah: not. But it's been used again in this fear of weaponry against the other.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Because a lot of impoverished maga are having to realize that the ideals that they were sold are sincerely and deeply hurting them, and it is painful to watch. There are a lot of communities in severely impoverished areas that are food deserts. Mm-hmm. They don't, you know, they don't have a, [00:51:00] not only, not only don't have access to food, they don't have the economy because their economies have been drained.

Right. Yeah. I mean, it, it's not just people who are disabled. Right. It is individuals who sincerely can't, um, you know, contribute to full-time work. Right. That helps cover them. And there's a whole host of categories that you have to establish and prove. Right. It's, it's hard to commit that fraud.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: You know, and that's a, that's a, a fraud that's been committed is convincing the public that it's super easy Yep. To commit fraud and get social security. And so they weaponize that bullshit to then go ahead and slip into these, you know, bills and the fucking amendments to the big beautiful bill that got, you know, rush and push and, you know, that takes away from the fucking tax paying.

Rightful owners of that [00:52:00] money.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: If you have paid in, you should be entitled to that. Monies it. Um, I, the only Ponzi scheme is the Ponzi scheme from the oligarch. They like to say that the social security system is a Ponzi scheme and needs to be dismantled. Well dismantled. You're gonna take it and do what with it?

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Um, no, I don't, I don't think so. Also, other countries somehow fucking managed to do this shit.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Why do we flounder around like we're fucking weaponized fucking idiots and it annoys the shit outta me and so I Yeah. I'm, I'm sincerely sorry. Yeah. To follow my, the, my answer is vote.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: We have to coalesce around candidates who are going to be sociologically minded and to protect us, because right now we're not being protected.

We have a goddamn government who is allowing unfettered rain by a dictator. Congress is doing Jack fuck all,

Jen: and they don't care because it doesn't affect them. Right. Like I just think about like the, the federal shutdown before. Right. Like who did it affect exactly what you're talking about.

DeJah: Right. And the blame game that it was the Democrats Yeah.

When they went [00:53:00] in control of neither the house nor the Senate. I mean, it was just so, and the people of this country saw that because we, the people are not fucking stupid.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Right. We, we may have been misled, but we're not fucking stupid when it's actually happening to us. Mm-hmm. When we're having a hard time buying groceries, when we're watching less literal money go in to be able to survive when you've paid in and are deserving of it.

Yeah. When I mean, so, so many. So many are suffering because they, it just lies.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Prices haven't gone down. They've just done it taken away. Oh God, rich people have just made more money. Trump in his first year, yay, he made 2 billion with a B, more dollars. The fucking money from Venezuela that were making from stealing their goddamn oils, going into a private fucking bank account.

And Qatar, that only Trump has fucking rights to control. And ooh, if you pay a billion dollars to Trump, you can be part of his secret cool society that keeps the world safe. Like [00:54:00] fuck. Right the fuck off. And so the, the, the trickle down effect has to be that they, people have to come first controlling by lobby and controlling by money in our politics.

That that's the only way that we're gonna be able to save our safety nets. And it, it's not, there's no shame. In being on welfare, I was on welfare as a kid. I had to fucking use food stamps. They were paper, goddamn, like money, play money that I had to fucking go in and actually use. But I sit before you, a successful individual because I was able to eat.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Children who go hungry cannot learn these basic biology of cruelty. Mm-hmm. So, um, it is just a cycle of cruelty. They don't care about taking care of the individuals who should be cared for, which is hilarious, since that's a principle of Jesus in a Christian nation. But I digress. [00:55:00]

Jen: Yeah. I don't, we we don't have the answer for you.

Apollo. I, I wish we did. I wish we had the superpower to snap our fingers

DeJah: and I I just have weed, water, and words,

Jen: which is expensive in its own right.

DeJah: Yeah, man.

Jen: And, and I, we don't have the answer. All we can say is that the right that you do have. Given circumstances, which are also dumb, is to vote. And so get mad enough, get, get angry enough, whatever it is, that that fuel you comes,

DeJah: comes stand with us or sit with us when we protest.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: You know, like we gotta, we gotta look out for each other. We have to literally defy the hate thy neighbor propaganda that's just been pushed across our nation. We, we have to defy that and really show these fucking bastards what Americans are. We may not agree on everything, but you will not own us.

You will not control us. We will not watch our people starve. We will not do it. Too many of us will not fucking stand for [00:56:00] it in a two-way motherfucking nation. We have had it bred into us that guns are our goddamn right and honor as Americans. Do not tell us that we're. Going to have to kneel Huh?

Americans? No, no.

Jen: But just don't do it during the national night at the meta football game, apparently.

DeJah: Correct. Correct. Yeah.

Jen: Yeah. Heavy times. Um, that's why coming together and banding together and leaning on

DeJah: and the fight that you can, and I I, I speak in this like, oh, the fucking, the federal government, it is very, very important that you know who your local legislature is.

Mm-hmm. It's very, very important that you investigate who we're voting for locally and what their stances are. And unfortunately, here in North Carolina, you know, and I'm pretty sure it's in every state of our nation there's data readily available about what bills they draft, what bills they support.

Right. You can get a very clear, good picture of what an individual who obviously has already been elected [00:57:00] Right. Is going to do, someone new, right? We gotta do a better job with our media of not fucking gargling and ask real fucking questions. Yeah. And just kiss ass boot looking questions like Jesus Christ.

Give me some good old school journalism where you get right to the point, like, are how would you vote this way? This, you know, these actual legitimate scenarios, like, and not accept word solid, not accept, just talking point like, oh, it's become so degraded and just accepted to not actually answer anything.

Non-answer, answer. We've, yeah. So I mean, it has to be at a very, very local level that we start up. Um, but I mean, the, the obvious possibilities are motherfucking endless because contrary to what Trump says, we are actually highly intelligent. We don't actually [00:58:00] need to import workers. I fully welcome people coming here.

I fully welcome, but we are, we're pretty cool too. Like we, we can do things. We're highly intelligent too, like Yeah, yeah. Obviously we want the best and brightest to come here, but the people we do have here are good too.

Jen: Yeah. We can all coexist.

DeJah: Right? And those people that are here have been paying into social security and taxes, and that's their mother of fucking money.

And it's being drained from them. And it's not right. It's not morally right. It is not ethical. What's happening in our nation and the use of our funds, the amount of money that we have spent taking Venezuela, and now we're gonna fucking buy Greenland.

Jen: No,

DeJah: I, um, so our, our monies are not being used properly.

Um,

Jen: oh, you mean

DeJah: building a

Jen: ballroom at the. White House isn't draping

DeJah: everything with gold.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Um, yes, yes, yes.

Jen: Yeah. I mean, I, I know that we started this off obviously talking about AI and we had a very fun game [00:59:00] and all that kind of stuff, but appreciate, but

DeJah: this is a very good, real question. Yes. Most certainly.

Very affecting, very nice. Thank a lot of very much. Yeah. Again, another highly intelligent and yeah, exceptionally linguistically starting together question. I love it. I love it. I

Jen: loved the, the vulnerability too, and I think it takes a lot to, even though I guess you're kind of calling and to void, so to speak.

Mm-hmm. But, um, so just thank you so

DeJah: much. We, so yeah. You're not alone. That's the number one. And you're not wrong. To feel fear, right? You're not wrong to be questioning things.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: It's absolutely okay. We all gotta be questioning things. That's

Jen: how change

DeJah: happens. We cannot be complacent. So thank you for literally questioning.

Yeah,

Jen: absolutely. Yeah. And for anybody else out there listening that may have a question or a thought or whatever, whether it. An AI generated very false journey to a very real, very

DeJah: top-notch.

Jen: Important question,

DeJah: Joe. 10. Outta 10, bud. I mean, yeah.

Jen: [01:00:00] You can give us a call, um, or you can text us. Um, and the number is 9 1 9 2 9 5 0 5 7 8.

The text will come through. The call will go straight to voicemail. You'll leave a voicemail like you have heard today in this episode and in previous episodes. And as I've said, we don't. Listen to these ahead of time. So we love, um, getting what you, like Joe said in the past that might come back and bite us in the ass someday.

But so far it's been great and we, you know, we want, we are, we wanna be open a safe space for people to ask any and all questions, so we will give you our honest answers. So there's that.

DeJah: I am never gonna lie to you.

Jen: Yeah, yeah, no. So just, we can't thank you enough for our listeners and for your curiosity and for your inquisition and your desire for change, whether it be fake or really deep and real, you know?

Absolutely. Um, yeah, so, wow. Well, I'm humbled as shit, so

DeJah: Yeah.

Jen: I'm gonna look at you and tell you to take us out, buddy.

DeJah: Well, I think that the moral of the [01:01:00] story is that we have to together hold a line of ethical love for what we're willing to accept for ourselves and for our neighbor. So we gotta love ourselves.

We gotta love our neighbor and we gotta continue to goddamn ramble because we gotta get it out right. You can't hold it in, so just keep rambling. Everybody fucking love you, man. I love you.

Joe: Bye. [01:02:00]