Ramblings of a Restless Mind

27 - Ramblings of a Restless Mind
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DeJah: [00:00:00] I fucking hate Nazis. Like I was raised, right?

Both in my grandfather's fought under patent in World War ii, and the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. So I'm, um, yeah, I, I, I feel very passionate. About, um, the hiring of the one percenters, the three percenters, the proud boys, the Boogaloo boys. 'cause they're not out motherfucking protesting because they're in ice.

We don't see them because they're working for ice. These are the men, the violent fucking Nazis that are being paid by the federal government to attack our citizens because. The only ones that we see out protesting, we watched get rescued in Minneapolis. Mm-hmm. By a Muslim man. A redheaded white woman and a black man.

That was like, America. America. Fuck you like. Yeah, exactly. It's like, fuck yeah, Minneapolis, you got my heart. I fucking love you. Those are such good fucking people. Such good fucking people.

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Jen: Plot twist. What's up guys? We have faces that go with our voices, and we decided why hide them from the world anymore. Also, Joe told us that we were the only podcast that was audio only, so we were like, well.

DeJah: Um, I, again, I'm very proud of our evolution.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Okay. We have, we've come a long way, baby.

Jen: We have, yeah.

And I am honestly so proud of Deja because this has been something that she, this has been a huge roadblock for her. She did not wanna do video, and we had, we actually put a little bit of effort into getting ready before coming to the studio today, and that felt weird. Um, but yeah, we're here and we're doing it.

And honestly, I think the rest of the world also needs to see all of the things that I have been describing about Deja with her all the way that she emotes and her big arm feelings and things. Yes. My arm [00:02:00] feelings guys,

DeJah: for our audio listener. I was just shaking my arms.

Jen: Yeah, we can't forget that. There's still people that, that will just listen to audio we love too.

So, um, but we appreciate you rambling along with us as we head. We are in 26.

DeJah: We're our YouTube journey.

Jen: That's right. Yes, that's right. Yes. We're, we're still, if we look awkward, it's because one we are, and two, because we're figuring out this whole camera situation.

DeJah: Hi guys.

Jen: There are multiple cameras set up to catch different angles and things, and so we have ones we can look directly at like that or not.

So, um, bear with us, but here we are. We are on the YouTubes, so you can go onto YouTube and find our YouTube channel, which is ramblings of a Restless Mind, pod, pod or podcast. I should know that better anyway. Either way, it'll get you there.

DeJah: Notice that no one expected me to know.

Jen: Deja, do you know what YouTube is?

DeJah: Yes. I I, I am a YouTube subscriber.

Jen: She is.

DeJah: Um, and that is how I [00:03:00] ha it is the only way that I allow information in, besides specific news networks. I find I have a very highly controlled YouTube algorithm.

Jen: I can't wait for the first time that you're scrolling YouTube shorts. And we pop up.

DeJah: Oh God.

Jen: And you know, like YouTube is most like Smart TVs have the YouTube app on 'em.

And so. We could pop up there too. So we could get real big in our own living rooms. That's

DeJah: fantastic. I'm already real big in my own living room, so Yeah.

Jen: Um, also did start saying this, but I'm Jen, I guess we should probably introduce who we are now that you can see our faces. So I'm Jen, the curly redheaded one, and that's Stacia.

The Valkyrie looking one.

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DeJah: Yes. Al in.

Jen: Yes.

DeJah: Trump are dumb.

Jen: I don't know what you just said

DeJah: for our Norwegian listeners, you know that I just said welcome. Trump is dumb.

Jen: We preach. Um, and also the voice [00:04:00] that you guys have heard that have, that joins us a lot that we love, that has his own set of following on our podcast. My brother is so excited for video and the first thing he asked me was, is Joe gonna have a video on him?

Two big fan fan. Hey Joe. Do you have a video on you?

Joe: Yeah, it's real close. Yeah. I was setting it up and I was like, man, and to top it all off I just had a hair transplant on Monday, and I'm not really a vein person, but my head is not normally this large. So enjoy.

DeJah: Joe is not normally a, a human caricature of himself.

Jen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Joey Woo is now presenting to the world. Look at that. So what brought this, because I've never noticed anything about you. You, you had these, the first thing I noticed when he walked in the studio earlier was, oh my gosh, where's all your hair? Like, you've had these luscious locks. What happened?

Dude,

Joe: I, I was growing long. I like to style my hair long. I think. Um, one of my shows is called, it's from a company called Nor Dermatology. Methodology and it's called skin Side Out. And [00:05:00] the, the guy that's running the show, his name's Dr. Zane, and they do a lot of like, anesthesiology, that's not the right word.

You think I've produced enough of these shows? Aesthetics? That's right. Thank you.

Jen: You're welcome.

Joe: So they do a lot of that kind of stuff and he is like, Hey, we're gonna start offering hair transplants for, for, for men like the kind they get in Turkey, they're called F uts. So what they did was they took a thousand hairs from this side of my head.

And took them out one by one and stuck them in a Petri dish, and then they cut little holes and then they stuck 'em back in, into the balding spots on the top of my head without like doing anything crazy. So I'm not gonna look dumb. When, when it all goes, that's the goal. Back in

Jen: generally. Yeah.

Joe: You shouldn't notice, but at this point I'm talking about it, so yeah, you're gonna notice.

But it was fun. It was a lot of fun.

Jen: Nice. I listen, I love that you're talking about it because I think it could be a sensitive subject for, for men or, you know, anything that you do to change your physical features, just for the wanting to do it purely and [00:06:00] not some medical reason. I think that there's some, some shame in our culture around that, so,

DeJah: oh.

Shame yet just selfless, endless promotion of it.

Jen: Yeah. Right.

DeJah: High inflection question mark.

Jen: Yes. And

DeJah: American culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jen: Look, perfect. But,

DeJah: but don't do anything to get there.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah.

DeJah: But yet, do everything behind the closed doors and spend as much money as humanly possible to not look like you actually had anything done.

Yeah. Okay.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: So that's

Jen: awesome.

Joe: This guy does really good work and he paid the woman to come do some the training, 'cause he's training his staff. And so I was, I think I was the first one. And, um, he paid a woman and she was, she really knew what she was doing. You could tell she's done a ton of these and she came from Bosley.

You remember those commercials from Oh yeah. Not only the president, I'm a client. And, um, you know, so I'm in and out of various states of drugged up throughout it and keep asking her questions like, it's a podcast that's going on. And I was like, Hey, the last time I saw like a bald guy on TV was George Costanza.

Like, do you guys do a lot as famous people? And she was like, all of them.

Jen: Yeah. I mean, that's fair, like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. [00:07:00] Well, cheers to 2026. We're here, we're in it. Joe, you don't have anything to. Goodie.

Joe: I got a, I got a soap, soda water

Jen: staying hydrated in 2026 is what that dude's doing.

DeJah: Oh, that's right.

Hydrated and moisturized. Yep. Mm-hmm.

Jen: Well, I'm sipping on some, um, Henry McKenna tenure and it is quite delicious. Ooh, actually I got this from, as a gift from a listener who you've also met. Mm-hmm. And you guys, this might be the biggest compliment that we have ever gotten from a listener. Um, she said that she.

Well, when she listens to our podcast, she takes the time to go into her bathroom and takes a bath. She was like, so when I'm listening to you, I am naked and wet. And I just, I can't think of a better compliment.

DeJah: That's, I mean, I, I don't think that's weird at all.

Jen: No. And she,

DeJah: she's

Jen: beautiful. Like so

DeJah: absolutely stunning supermodel.

Um, so I, I take that as a 10 out of 10 compliment. Yes, absolutely. This. Hands down. Gorgeous woman. Yep. [00:08:00] Is bubbly and naked. Enjoying us.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Winner, winner. Chicken dinner. Suck it. Gentlemen. We've done it all.

Joe: Just be, just be careful if you watch on YouTube, don't drop the phone. We'd hate to see you get electrocuted.

Jen: Oh, that's fair. Yeah. Well, hopefully she's not holding

DeJah: the, oh no. I hope this. Highly intelligent woman has a mounted tv.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm

Jen: sure. Or she could just have her husband who is also Yes. Wonderful. Absolutely. Just hold it for her. Yes. While she relaxes.

DeJah: Yes. Mm-hmm.

Jen: So shout out to that

DeJah: listener.

Say safety first. Yes, safety first. Looking dead in the eye of the camera now.

Jen: Yes.

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DeJah: first. Yes.

Jen: Disclaimer. We are not responsible for any executions as a result of this podcast.

DeJah: That is correct. That is correct.

Jen: Um, yeah, so that's awesome. So what are you sipping on, buddy?

DeJah: Um, I got a nowadays 10 milligram, just the pure THC liquid.

Jen: I know. So,

DeJah: um, with multiple ounces Yeah. Upset liquid.

Jen: Yeah. We have a, um, a friend who we heard call it pot water.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Jen: Um, for like THC seltzers. And so that's why I referred to that earlier as your pottail. Mm-hmm. As your cocktail. Your [00:09:00] cocktail is a cocktail.

DeJah: Yeah.

Jen: Um, yeah. Shout out to Lowe's Foods for having.

Various kinds of, and, and, um, yeah. Amounts of like either five milligram, 10 milligram, whatever of seltzers. Absolutely. And those elixirs and stuff like that. Like all kinds of 'em, and they, they range in price too.

DeJah: They absolutely do. It's a new and burgeoning market. Mm-hmm. And like anything new and burgeoning, it's expensive.

But as we finally evolve as a culture to accept and stop persecuting marijuana, the price will come down.

Jen: Hopefully. We hope we don't devolve

DeJah: in that as well. No. We state and manifest exactly what's going to happen. Fair

Jen: enough.

DeJah: We do not question,

Jen: I like this.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Jen: You know, which brings up the fact that we.

Well, the last episode that we recorded, we were, we've, listen, we've let you guys behind the curtain and here you are. So here's another thing. Um, deja was very smart and thought ahead and brought other clothes to wear so it doesn't look like,

DeJah: God dammit, you ruined it.

Jen: I'm gonna tell myself, telling myself,

DeJah: mom, mom, I'm really [00:10:00] mad about this.

Go on.

Jen: Oh, I decided to eight my, my eight mile myself. So I just wanted to drag you under the bus with me. Um, so you're gonna see me in the same outfit for the next

DeJah: three episodes,

Jen: but Deja will have gone home and showered and completely changed outfits. Mm-hmm. And come back, so. Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Yep.

Jen: Um, yeah. But in our, one of our last, or the last episode, which you guys have been liking, man, the, the sex, but.

In I therapist remember the title of it, but this Increase your expertise with mm-hmm. The Sex Therapist Best Dement that we had on, um, you guys have been liking that one man. Highest dreams we've gotten so far, which that tracks who doesn't like to listen to about sex?

DeJah: I mean, human biology and psychology, right?

Jen: Yeah. Yeah.

DeJah: It all checks for everybody.

Jen: But in that episode we also talked about going in, you know, the new, you starting the new year and how you and I always have a word that we go, go in with, and at that time, we hadn't decided what our words were. But we now have our words.

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: Joe, did you do this homework too?

Do you have your word hair?

DeJah: Joe's like, oh shit.

Joe: Yeah.

Jen: Hair.

DeJah: Hair.

Joe: [00:11:00] It's, it's growth.

Jen: Growth.

Nice. That's fair. Love it. Um, so what's your word?

DeJah: Glow.

Jen: Glow. Go on. Glow with your bad self.

DeJah: Exactly. Nothing else needed.

Jen: Alright. Um, and I landed on emanate, um, and reasoning. That's,

DeJah: that's the same word. We're both radiating.

Jen: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Not technically. Joe Eem to emanate is to like grow from a foundation.

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: Expanding from there is an

DeJah: etiology of the refraction.

Joe: Yeah, totally do.

Jen: Yeah. Yep. Yep.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jen: Listen, Joe, let me have my word. Okay. But yeah, it just emanate. Last year was a very foundationally building year for me in switching careers and all kinds of things, honestly. And it was a beautiful, beautiful year and I just wanted to con, continue to expand on that.

And I didn't wanna use the word expand, so I went to [00:12:00] Google and said, what are synonyms? For expanding from the core. Yes. And that's what it gave me. So, so we are just not gonna explain why you chose Glow. We're just sticking with Glow.

DeJah: Well, I'm everybody I fucking awesome. And so I'm just gonna be more awesome every year.

Be a better person every day, every minute, a hundred, 110 percenter as I always am, do my very fucking best. So I regret absolutely nothing. So I'm just gonna keep glowing that. Love it. All you gotta do is work hard at everything and then relax. Like a mother truck.

Jen: I love that energy. Yes. Um, on theme with this, I saw something online that I had to buy Deja knowing her word was now glow.

And it's this neon sign of a female hand. Well, I guess it could be a male hand too. Mm-hmm. But it has like long like stiletto nails on it and it's holding a blunt and it glows, you know, it's like it's a neon sign, so it glows like that. Super pink color. Yes. She texted me one day and she was like. I love the fact that my neighbors across the street probably think that I have an [00:13:00] OnlyFans account now because I have this pink glowing room.

DeJah: They're like, oh, well, the, like pink light's on. She must be recording.

Jen: Oh, so that's great. Yeah. And then got one for myself that says be a badass with a good ass.

DeJah: Yeah, man, I

Jen: feel like that's,

DeJah: that's another goal. I love it. I love it. I literally, that's how I'm like, oh, the office is on, I turn.

Jen: Time to glow.

DeJah: Yep, yep, yep. Love it. Love it.

Jen: Oh man. Oh, I just thought about this as we're talking about random things. Um, Joe, did you know that I went on a date with one of your buddies before Christmas?

Joe: I, I didn't even know I had buddies. I'm very, I'm very excited about this.

Jen: I'm not gonna name drop. How do

DeJah: you, man,

Jen: I'm not gonna name drop, but get those

DeJah: buddies.

Hell yeah.

Jen: But surprise, you do have at least one friend in the world.

Joe: Yes, I knew it.

Jen: Yeah. He was very nice.

Joe: I don't have a lot of friends, so I bet I could guess.

Jen: Yeah. But he [00:14:00] wasn't quite removed from his. Marriage and separation situation like I would prefer. So there's that,

Joe: that that narrows it down.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. But very, very nice. He was a gentleman. He was funny. Like it was very nice, but just not, not for me.

DeJah: Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Joe: man. Small world.

Jen: Yeah. In fact, I think he actually went to, 'cause we, we, we talked about how we both knew you and I'm pretty sure he went to go hang out with you after that. Ha. I was like, tell Joe I said, Hey,

Joe: that's great.

Jen: Obviously he didn't,

DeJah: anyway.

Jen: Surprise.

DeJah: And I did not go on a date with any girlfriend, just, just so that we're all clear and transparent. Okay.

Jen: Oh goodness. Um. So something else that has, I mean, I feel like there's a, there's been a lot that has happened in, in the world that has just kind of been a fucking dumpster fire,

DeJah: fucking fucking shit.

Fuck shit.

Jen: Um, wow. Yeah, and to include, honestly, up till last night and us. Oh yeah. [00:15:00] Getting ready for this podcast. So we have had an experience before of a guest that bailed, um, without telling us basically. Mm-hmm. Um, but this time unfortunately, and we're not gonna go into too many concrete details 'cause honestly we don't have that many concrete details, but it did.

Afford us an opportunity to just kind of bring to light very lightly and in, in, in limited scope. Um, we found out that this person had recent, there had been recent allegations of sexual assault and we don't know to the level or anything like that, but obviously with Dasia and I, like we just, that wasn't something that we were gonna bring onto our platform and show any sort of support for.

No,

DeJah: obviously Jen and I. Both huge advocates for the Constitution and an individual being innocent until proven guilty. Yep. Um, however, I, I do, I have met, um, the, both that I've, I've met the person that, um, is accused of taking the action. I've also met the individual who, um, outed this person [00:16:00] and, um, to push them towards accountability.

Um, and so I just. You know, I'm, I'm both disappointed. As well as appreciative simultaneously. Mm-hmm. Um, so I just would like to say thank you to USMC angry veteran for, um, being an ally and advocate for women, which is just an honorable good man.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Um, and, standing up for and abiding by what is right, which is just truth.

And that, um, a culture of assault with an excuse of being drunk is not acceptable any longer. It was the culture that I grew up in and I've experienced it being, being a bartender, being a server, just endlessly. I know that if this is substantiated, that, that the victim is not going to forget about it.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Um, and that, that acts, apparently a violation been more

Jen: than one

DeJah: [00:17:00] is it doesn't, it doesn't ever go away. Um, and I can, I am a survivor of sexual assault and I can say that even, you know, just thinking about that. Boom, I can flash immediately back too. One of the times. Mm-hmm. Um, and, you know, and so I, I just really deeply appreciate the, the honor that was given to listening to the women.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Um, so Thank you. Yeah. Um, may

Jen: may maybe we'll be able to get him on here too, 'cause

DeJah: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Jen: And, and I think for me, when, when it was first discovered. You know, one, I was like, wp. Wp. Mm-hmm. And then I was like, Jen, them being a guest on your podcast is, doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't fucking matter the what?

These three women now that have come forward, um. That, that's what matters. Mm-hmm. And, and how that they're gonna have to, to, to navigate this. And, you know, it's, it's been told time and time again statistically that it's, whenever someone hears of an allegation of abuse, the first, a lot of times people will jump to like, [00:18:00] disbelief.

Like there's no way that that person could have done that, or that it is, you know,

DeJah: defense of the abuser.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Yes.

Jen: Yeah. Yes. And, um, so just PSA to belief because, um, similar to Deja, I have also experienced sexual assault. I haven't met a, a female who hasn't, to be completely honest.

DeJah: I've only met one in my entire life.

And I was like, are you sure?

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: I've never like have asked someone, are you lying to me? But I was like, have you suffered amnesia for periods like I, because it is every woman besides this one person.

Jen: Well, and sometimes that, that begs the question for me. Are they aware that something may have happened to them is sexual assault because I think we sometimes jumped kind of the most egregious things that be, could be qualified as sexual assault.

DeJah: It's, it's absolutely statistical probable that this individual had a very safe and secure upbringing as well as a very safe and secure college environment and the very safe and secure married environment after. And um, so it's, it's possible. Yeah. But those are people in a very protected. Status. Yeah. At all times.

And [00:19:00] that more than often comes with financial stability in a family. Yeah. But, um, so yeah,

Jen: but that also happens behind those closed doors.

DeJah: You damn straight.

Jen: I mean, I listen, just because of such a video doesn't mean I'm not an open book anymore. I mean, and I, I like, even though it can be hard sometimes, I like to talk about these things because.

Hopefully the Me Too movement is a thing. Mm-hmm. It's not just a phrase. Yes. Be because I hope that if someone is hearing this, they're like, oh, I can find solace in that because me too. Mm-hmm. And, um, you know, I was, all those things you just described, Ray's in a healthy, strong family, like comforting family.

You know, my bonus, I came into my life when I was younger and, you know, all these great, I've talked about him before. You know, my brother for very close, very safe environment. And at the hands of let's see, when I was in high school working at the restaurant that I was at. Was sexually assaulted by the manager.

DeJah: Yeah. Fucking service industry man.

Jen: Yep. And all the other, there were several other girls whenever I just chose to speak up about it. Thankfully we got him terminated from the place. Oh, wow. Um, in college, [00:20:00] one of the, a guy that I was dating at the time, we were at a get together at somebody's house and party, I guess, 'cause there was a lot of people there.

Um, and got pulled into the bathroom and the door locked and like shoved himself on me, you know, and then it, it just goes on from there. There are other instances and so it's like the, these things,

DeJah: it's endless.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: It's endless. Like I, yeah, yeah. Oh, your stories. My stories. The stories we know from our friends, the stories that our friends have told us mm-hmm.

From other women, we, we would, we'd just never leave.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Right. We'd age in front of these cameras. Yep. So, um, very true. Like, it, it is, it is unfortunate, but it is pervasive. Mm-hmm. And the only way to root out a pervasive problem is to identify it. To talk about it. That's, it's, it's. Able to continue because our culture still immediately goes to protecting the abuser.

However, it's gotten a lot better since Me too. Mm-hmm. Um, and so I, I think that, that [00:21:00] we're moving in the right direction, but it is unfortunate that, again, we just had to have an example that crossed our path. Right?

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: And we are, we are very well aware and that, you know, you gotta keep your head on a swivel, but also, um, I sincerely believe that.

A, a drunk action is a sober thought. Mm-hmm. Like, and so I just don't accept that. Well, I was drunk, so I committed a crime. I, you can't get drunk and then burn down a building and say, well, yeah, I was drunk. I'm drunk. I went out, grabbed my alligator ear, the drags like, no, I'm sorry. You're gonna have accountability like that.

No, sorry. Yep. No. Mm-hmm.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. Mm.

Jen: And, and I have and. I've found, you know, confidence, I guess in seeing some of the, the men that have spoken up in, in relation to this and saying like, I've been [00:22:00] drunk so many times and I've never sexually assaulted anyone. So,

DeJah: exactly.

Jen: And that's what it takes.

Because if I sit here and say, well, deja, you've seen me drunk several times and I've never sexually assaulted anyone, and they'll be like, ah, but you're a woman. And I'm like, yeah. Okay. And

DeJah: yeah, because the, the thing that, that doesn't get, again, without having these conversations, the only way for evil to persist is for good men to do nothing.

So good men have to have the conversations with the perpetrator predators, because it's not that all men are out assaulting. Women.

Jen: Right,

DeJah: right. Correct. It is that there are predators who repeatedly fucking assault women and good men do not stop them. They get to continue to go on. They can move wherever they want to and continue to go on.

It's, I, it's just like having bad fucking cops that in this country you can have a cop that fucking has a histrionic of beating the shit outta people. It'll just move to the next state and get a new fucking histrionic beating the shit outta people, like unfortunately, our culture. Mm-hmm. Right. Allows [00:23:00] these acts of violence and abuse and we ha again, I'm, I'm proud in this moment because good men

Jen: mm-hmm.

DeJah: Have to take the lead. This, it's not for women to fucking go Hi, we're also the victim. Also, we're supposed to change your behavior.

Jen: Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

DeJah: No, no. Um, so I am so deeply appreciative and gentlemen, this helps me, this psychologically helps me. I have a bias against men. Specifically white men because of my traumas.

It helps me,

Jen: yeah.

DeJah: It helps me feel safe in my own community in the world, knowing that good men are stepping forward.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: And speaking up and speaking out and speaking in a manner that is a hail motherfucking no. Mm-hmm. So again, yes.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: USMC, angry veteran. Your, your response was healing to me in a moment that felt like I.

Even though it was disconnected from me, [00:24:00] I still had great hopes for our, our interview. And it, it felt like a hurt.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Right? Yeah. And, um, and to lose what I thought was an ally.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Um, so. Yeah. It, it sucked. We don't have a guest for our first

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Video. You get us. Yep. Um, but yeah, these are facts and realities.

These are, and, and that was just to, that was yesterday, guys. Yeah. That's not even the fact that the person we were supposed to speak to was also from up north. You know, what's going on in Minneapolis? I grew up up there. I, I spent my formative years going into Minneapolis, St. Paul. Like, I am a child of Prince.

Jen: Oh

DeJah: my God. Yes. I aren we all, um, so I, it hurts me. It hurts me. I'm just waiting to see like people that I went to high school with on camera.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: You know, like I, I friends, right? Like, oh my gosh. Um, and the, just watching and [00:25:00] hearing them, because what I'm listening to is all of my neighbors as a child, you know, their, their accents, their, their look like.

It is very deeply personal and I, and I'm, I've been so filled with so much anger and rage because I can't help my neighbor because Minnesota is my neighbor.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: And I, I, I can't do anything about it right now in this moment.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: I can't protect them, and it's very hard for me. Um, and so I, I was looking forward to having that cathartic conversation about like, what can we do?

How can we help Minnesota? Like I'm wearing purple to support. Right. Like, um. Not that I'm pro Viking. Um, but like, I, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm. Our, our disappointed country, our, the state of our union is is in distress. Yeah. Um, and so yeah, that was, you know, one subject that we were gonna broach, like how can we help Minnesota?

I thought it'd be great where we can brainstorm, but we will, we'll get other guests. Yes. We'll continue [00:26:00] on our path of righteousness and being on the right side of history. Um,

Jen: that's right. And, and honestly, that's a great, now, I mean, being, you know, on YouTube as well, like, and, and. These people, this, this guest was gonna be joining us, obviously from a different state.

So if you are listening and you are experiencing these things and, and you, you know, want to reach out to possibly be a guest on the podcast, talk about this, please reach out to us. Our email is on there. You can DM us on Instagram as well, Ram. Restless Mind Podcast, um, find us on there and you know, happy to have that chat and, 'cause all we wanna do is lift up these voices and come together as a community to stop the, this bullshit, this tyranny that is going on.

DeJah: Correct. And I, I really do love hearing veteran voices. Mm-hmm. Like, it, it also. Is healing for me. Mm-hmm. Um, so yep. Please. Hi.

Jen: Yeah, [00:27:00] I have, I will say I've been seeing, you know, social media for all of it, negativities. It also can really make you fucking laugh too. Yeah. So I've been seeing these videos that are coming out because there's been talks of ice going to Philly and also all these people from Philly, like stepping up, like yeah.[00:28:00]

Philly's fans like set shit on fire and throw cars over whenever the Eagles win.

DeJah: Listen,

Jen: it was what do think they're gonna do to ice?

DeJah: It was weeks ago, right? I was watching the, um, I believe it was the police chief, right? Philadelphia. And she was already like, oh hell no. Yep. You come here. You, you try to harm our people, our citizens.

We're going to protect them, not you. That's our job. That's what we get paid for, that their tax money pays our salaries. Right. And just to hear that the whole community, like they were already, 'cause there was just a whisper. They might come to Philly, and I was like, yeah,

Jen: listen, I'm a Cowboys fan, so I hate the Eagles to my very being, but I might put on some green for that shit.

You know what I'm saying?

DeJah: Right. Like I said, repping some purple. Yeah. Doesn't mean I'm a Vikings fan. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm very, very proud. Yep. That's right. Stand up. [00:29:00] That's right. Stand up.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: As a, yeah. As g Newsom said in like, bless his

Jen: soul, God, Gavin Newsom, can you come up

DeJah: like,

Jen: I never listened to this, but we would love to have Gavin Newsom on here.

DeJah: I I, out of respect, I would like say, good job Gavin Newsom's wife.

Jen: Cheers to her.

DeJah: Cheers. See you girl. Yeah. Because it's absolutely true in the direction that it is when he talks about Donald Trump and he said that Donald Trump is a T-Rex. You either mate with him or he devours you. And that's exactly what we are watching happen.

With, with maga, the GOP, the whole party, the whole works as yeah, we, we see Minnesota absolutely under attack by a federalized personal police force.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Like,

Jen: whoa. Yeah. I mean, I've seen videos. I, I've talked to you about this, you know, I've seen videos of, of a, um, a military officer. I don't, he, not an mp, but he was in his.

Um, rank, sorry. Mm-hmm. Words are escaping [00:30:00] me. Um, and he was sharing this video because he wanted other people to see as well, that he had an gentleman who was in uniform.

DeJah: Yep.

Jen: Go out to a, a Wawa at like 6:00 AM. And he was fir he was pulled over by a police car and it was a police officer, I think it was in Virginia, and a police officer which tracks, um, for like Virginia Beach and Navy, Navy sealed all kind of stuff.

Anyway, anyway, police officer and then an ice agent step out and they said they were first pulling him over because his tent was too dark. And so he, he had the paperwork and his car that said that he was, that the tent was legal for Virginia. And then they asked to see a military gentleman serving in the United States, some military branch.

Asked to see his passport

DeJah: Yeah.

Jen: Identification that he would, and I was like,

DeJah: yeah.

Jen: Are, are you kidding me right now? Like, what is happening?

DeJah: Yeah. Other than that's completely against the fucking constitution. United States citizen doesn't have to carry papers. It's yeah. Some real ses gusta. Oh, shit.

Yep. [00:31:00] Yep. You know, I'd, I'd say I look up to Greg Bino, but I'm five foot six, so, um. There's that.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Yeah, yeah.

Jen: That math

DeJah: ain't Matthew. Fuck that motherfucker. Um, I yeah, I, I, I fucking, if you know me, one thing about me is that I fucking hate Nazis. Like I fucking hate Nazis. Like I was raised, right?

Both in my grandfather's fought under patent in World War ii, and the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. So I'm, um, yeah, I, I, I feel very passionate. About, um, the hiring of the one percenters, the three percenters, the proud boys, the Boogaloo boys. 'cause they're not out motherfucking protesting because they're in ice.

We don't see them because they're working for ice. These are the men, the violent fucking Nazis that are being paid by the federal government to attack our citizens because. The only ones that we see out [00:32:00] protesting, we watched get rescued in Minneapolis. Mm-hmm. By a Muslim man. A redheaded white woman and a black man.

That was like, America. America. Fuck you like. Yeah, exactly. It's like, fuck yeah, Minneapolis, you got my heart. I fucking love you. Those are such good fucking people. Such good fucking people.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: I mean,

Joe: yeah, I lived, I lived in Minneapolis for four years during college too, and I was thinking about it the other day, like, why have they been in the news so much?

And I think it's really because they're legitimately just so nice down to earth people. Yep. I think that stuff happens everywhere, but Minneapolis are the people that are like, nah,

DeJah: no, that's not, see, because they're very, I don't, I grew up, you know, like you're close to the Canadian border, right? Yeah. And that's what Canadians are known for.

But they are also nice until they're not. And that's how you are up there. Sure. I'm, I'm gonna be [00:33:00] very, I'm gonna be polite. You be a rude boom. Right. Like there's, that, that's just, that's just how it is. And, um, so now that's what they're finding out mm-hmm. That Minnesotans. These are people hardened by the fucking cold.

Yeah. You think that they're gonna stand down. You don't understand what patriotism is In America, we have been raised and bred that we are the greatest country in the world. Right? Not anymore. That we're the motherfucking best. And now you're, you're gonna come in and tell us that you're gonna take away the things that make it the best, and we're just supposed to obey in advance.

Jen: Yeah. Well, and also the, the, obviously the horrific murder of Renee Goode has

DeJah: the obvious murder

Jen: Yes.

DeJah: Of Renee Goode. The obvious not running over Yeah. Of the ice agent that. Didn't go to the hospital with internal injuries and [00:34:00] walked away with his own leg keys. Yes. I

Joe: got a kick outta like that whole, like, you could tell the people that were towing the line in all the news interviews were like not believing what they were saying.

DeJah: Mm-hmm.

Joe: Like, you can't, you can't use your car as weapon 'cause weapons are bad. Mm-hmm. Like, it just fall apart.

DeJah: Yeah. Okay. Um, I, I also, it was fascinating to me because I, I am not on any social media. Right. I don't pipe in because you can now see why. Um, and

Jen: Deja would definitely be a war, a keyboard

DeJah: warrior.

Oh, Jesus. I will, you, you guys are gonna

Joe: get so many more comments on YouTube than

DeJah: you did through audio podcast. You know what podcast? You know what? Guess what? I'm not gonna read anything. Say whatever the fuck you want, if you have something negative to say. Don't bother. I'm never gonna get it, go somewhere else.

Um, so I I, I only wanna power promote positivity and reinforcement of community. And I, yeah. I'm at a fucking loss. I'm, I'm just so angry Yeah. About it. Like, it just,

Jen: I think a lot of people are that way. [00:35:00] Oh, absolutely.

DeJah: I've absolutely. Which again, makes me feel good.

Jen: Yeah. Right.

DeJah: I'm not alone.

Jen: Yeah. Well, and I've also seen a lot recently and I really think that while I, I wish this wasn't serving as a catalyst for it, I, I really think the Renee goodes, god, I dare call it a sacrifice like that, she.

She never choice of the matter execution. Yeah. That, that has been a, a tipping point. And I have seen so many people starting to come out to say, I usually don't speak on political matters, whatever, but I can't stay silent anymore. Like

DeJah: this is eyes do not deceive me.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Yeah. I can't believe that you're telling me that the sky is neon orange.

Right. While I'm looking at a blue sky. It's just not, yeah, not, but that, and that, that is, you know, why these people are starting to come around that? Oh, goodness, goodness. Golly. They they might not be very truthfully, eh, like, maybe not. Maybe we've we've been deceived for like a decade, perhaps maybe.

[00:36:00] The great deceiver has been feeding a bunch of propaganda to hate thy neighbor, AKA, own the lips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guess what? I, it's not going to work. I, I am such a patriot. I believe the ship will write itself. Mm-hmm. I believe you are watching a extinction burst of full patriarchal control. And maybe we'll see a, a turn away from the just uncontrolled capitalism.

That has caused such a goddamn poverty gap. Yeah. Right. In our nation that maybe all of this, that Renee good, right? Like all of these people, like I so many people assaulted, maimed, that poor 21-year-old kid, blinded shot in the fucking face. Direct just as far away as you are. Like, how dangerous is this [00:37:00] unarmed?

Nearly he looked like he was a gangly 16-year-old. Like you're afraid of him. You are in full tactical fucking gear. Yeah. You pussy ass motherfucker. Gee, come bare knuckles. Fight me. I'm a fucking middle aged woman. Let's go. You wanna fucking get out some of your goddamn napole rage?

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Like, oh my God.

Jen: It's, it'll be interesting to see how this. Period in our lives is written in history books.

DeJah: Absolutely. And this is why I'm, I'm proud to be on the right side. Go ahead. Put me on a motherfucking list. I don't give a shit. Come at me, bro. What do you, what am what what? Yeah. I mean, and it, it has to be that the volume of white women that voted for Trump, right, are, are holding a lot of responsibility.

Like we knew better. We knew. And like, oh, Jesus Christ. So, you know, earlier we were [00:38:00] talking about the sexual assault allegation. Mm-hmm. And I couldn't help when I was sitting at home, I was like, oh, he trumped her.

Jen: Mm-hmm. Yep.

DeJah: Yep. We all knew that Hollywood Access tapes that he loved to sexually assault women.

Right? I mean,

Jen: yep.

DeJah: And yet all these women still voted for him. Like there's so many things. He cheating on all of his wives paying off porn stars. But all these white women were like, I'm gonna stick by my man. Like And for what? Exactly. So right where we are right now. Because they followed their hate.

They followed the, their white male counterparts. Down a path of following their fucking hate and their fear. I've never met such fearful people in my fucking life, but now that fear is being turned against them because they're having to face what they see with their own eyes. Mm-hmm. They've been led to believe that we are fucking just horrible, violent.

We're just, we, we are the, we're burning down cities. Portland doesn't [00:39:00] exist, by the way, guys does not exist. It's been burned to the ground. Right. It, it's actually, it looks like a crater. Like, um, so the the, the fact that they have tried to convince everybody that Renee Good wasn't murdered.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Right.

And they're, and, and that. They went and, and said immediately, it wasn't even within two hours, there wasn't an investigation. And Christie No was out there saying she was a domestic terrorist who tried to murder a federal agent, like boom, immediate defense. Right. I I, and, and that goes against all of the precedent of.

Any administration. When something bad happens, you immediately say, it's a horrible tragedy we are investigating.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: You do not fucking immediately

Jen: defend

DeJah: and justify. It just speaks, justify, speaks to the volume of guilt, the volume of guilt to immediately. Have to go on the defense because if you're not guilty, you don't immediately have to go on the defense.

Mm-hmm. And, and like just, just then all just that stream [00:40:00] of propaganda that came out and Trump saying with absolution that the man was run over and nearly dead. Internally bleeding out. I, they're like, oh, it could be internal bleeding on the report. Right. The report said that's a bruise.

Jen: Yeah. Yep.

DeJah: That's a fucking def the, the scientific definition that you would put on a report for a bruise. Fuck Ido. Yeah. We watched him walk away. Um, so I'm, I'm really hoping that they're fucking themselves imploding by being so explicitly guilty. They've been screaming that they're not guilty for all these things.

Right? And then throw, look at this. Look at this. Look at this. But people are going. We still haven't seen all those Epstein files yet. And, um, now you, that you're not, you did murder that woman.

Jen: These are all the things visually that you guys have been missing out on audio only. And, and you know, you and I [00:41:00] talked about this before too, but in all of this, like, it can, it can be hard to admit that you made a mistake or that you thought wrong or that absolutely you've changed your mind. But we are here to tell you like.

It, it's not like if you are feeling that way, like maybe you originally, you know, you voted for drum or were high on that horse with that Cheeto, like it's okay to say, you know what, I made a mistake. Like I don't stand, I was

DeJah: juice. I do it the great deceiver.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: There are a lot of people in this country that not didn't grow up where I did, I grew up in the northeast, like in the northwest, like where I last east, excuse me, where our, our news media came from out of New York.

Right. So I grew up watching him be a conman. I grew up watching him sell his wares. I grew up watching him appear in everything. I grew up watching him bankrupt, a casino, a casino. It's mathematically impossible, but so like I, I got I think a lot more exposure and I think it was talked about more.

Mm-hmm. Like in my family, I remember like even my grandma saying like, that man's a snake oil salesman.

Jen: Yeah. Oh yeah.

DeJah: Like when I was a kid. Right. So I, I had [00:42:00] that. Where the rest of our country just saw this portrayal propaganda of a great businessman. And they were, you know, like, and

Jen: celebrity

DeJah: of from TV show.

Like, that's why he's the great deceiver.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: And so it's absolutely true. It, it is okay that someone deceived you. It's okay to then learn facts and change your mind.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: That's just how it goes when somebody fucking lies to you and you've been misled.

Jen: Yep. '

DeJah: cause that's what happened. They lied and misled.

They had a, they had a mission. They had project 2025 and they lied to you when he said he didn't know about the Heritage Foundation and now the guy is in his fucking cabinet. He lied. It's okay. Come on back, baby. Purple Revolution.

Jen: Yeah. It, it's never too wrong to do the right thing. We'll, we'll throw that quote out there and, and to, to, to pivot.

If things aren't going to a plan, you can pivot. Yes. And, you know, [00:43:00] we're gonna, we'll, we'll bring it down a notch, um, because that's what you know. Bringing it all the way back to the beginning. That's what we had to do. Yeah. For today. Yeah. Because we last minute, um, had a guest that cannot be here. And to that end, I reached out to our social media to say, Hey, what are some tips?

What do you guys do? Mm-hmm. Whenever something suddenly changes and things don't go to plan, like, what advice do you have? And we got some, some pretty generic, but also, um, pretty great responses. Um, tell me

DeJah: computer, what is your will?

Jen: Yeah. Um, we got stop and pause. Allow yourself to be upset and pissy by the change.

Acknowledge, and then move on.

DeJah: Okay.

Jen: Yell, plot, twist, and embrace it. Um, this might be our mantra. Say Fuck it and move on. Yes. Um, let's see. Focus on what you can control. Let go of the rest. Very, the therapeutic, absolutely. Find the silver lining. Mm-hmm. And what gets to happen now. Also, very positive.

Patty. Um, and then this was a little bit longer, but pretty funny being A-D-H-D-I have to be okay with [00:44:00] going catatonic if shit changes last minute. It might not happen, but if I'm not prepared for it, I'm guaranteed to end up in paralysis, staring at a wall. For me, it's being able to laugh at how ridiculous my brain is.

Either way, I just can't expect it to be normal, as that's the fur as my brain is the furthest thing from normal.

DeJah: Oh yes. I, I accepted a long time ago that my brain is a kaleidoscope of madness and that I just am who I am.

Jen: Yep.

DeJah: Yeah. And that is that's very, very helpful. And I have absolutely recognized that all of my years of therapy are really woo, I'm using all them,

Jen: all those coping

DeJah: skills, skills and coping skills, man, like Yeah.

To get through. 'cause there has been a couple times like that I've been like, man, should I call my therapist and go back in? And then I was like. I, I know how to work through this. Yeah. Like, I know why I am feeling this. I know why I, I know that I what I can and cannot do. You know, like there's, there's no guidance that could be given to me.

I just need to do this. Right. I need to have conversations mm-hmm. With people and. Acknowledge that I'm not alone.

Jen: Yeah, and not alone. And it's completely valid. We're not

DeJah: alone [00:45:00]

Jen: to be angry about all of this, to be sad, to be angry, to feel defeated, to feel burned out, to feel whatever you're feeling unless you're supporting this is okay.

Like, so. Feel all those things. Accept it. Don't be in denial of it. Don't feel, you know, degraded or, or anything like that because you are feeling this way. Um, a lot of us, you're not, you are not alone. Um, a lot of, a lot, a lot of people, and not just in this country, but other countries that are watching us from afar are,

DeJah: oh my God.

I actually thought

Jen: scared

DeJah: and

Jen: disappointed and everything else actually thought I was

DeJah: in my mind as I was watching Davos, like, um, which was, you know, world leaders were coming together, um, and they were standing against Trump. And I was so very pleased because that is how we on the world stage, um stop a, a world dictator.

Jen: Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Um, and I was just thinking about like, man, I should write all their world leaders a letter of apology. Like, just be like, Hey. [00:46:00] Just just hang on. Okay. We are, we're in a flex. Okay. Yeah. Remember, California's still fourth greatest. I can, um, excuse me. The, what is it? The fourth greatest economy in the world is California itself.

Like, we're, we're still an amazing, great country. We are just going through a super sociological flux because we never dealt with slavery. So, um, we're gonna, we're gonna work our way through the, the hate. Right. And, um, we're gonna, we're gonna come out on top and we're gonna be a much stronger nation. That, um, goes back to believing that immigrants are the root and etiology of our success.

So again. Manifesting happened.

Jen: Deja for President.

Joe, how are you feeling over there? I mean, we're gonna wrap this up, but like how are you feeling with all this?

Joe: I mean, my wife and I were talking about it the other day. I think this is the thing that frustrates me. I was happy to see the world leaders were upset, but I was also frustrated by the fact, 'cause that's Congress's job.

Mm-hmm. [00:47:00] They're just asleep at the wheel.

DeJah: Yep. Thank you.

Joe: Correct. And nobody's talking about that enough. I feel like in the news cycle. Because we have checks and balances. People are like, how can he just do it? Because they're not doing.

DeJah: Yes. Because there's a con Republican controlled house and a Republican controlled senate that is capitulate to him and a Republican controlled supreme court.

Um, so yeah, there is no balance. He is on check. There is no current balance. Yeah. They are giving him the complete control of constitution of congressional power. I, I mean, Mike Johnson. Mike Grinder Johnson. Woo. That that wee little man, just a litany of wee little men like my No. That tracks little me syndrome.

Yes, yes.

Jen: The responsibility lies with all of us. Mm-hmm. Not, not just our elected officials, but it's, it's with all of us. Um,

DeJah: no, we, 49% of people voted for this. Current regime, you know, and I, in my letter to the other nations, I would [00:48:00] like to say, please use this as an example of how to not deteriorate your educational system.

Mm. Your healthcare system your social safety nets for the elderly and the disabled. Um yeah. And then you'll become, yeah, like, like, don't allow all of your, your monies to go to your billionaires. AKA oligarchs. Yep. That's all Elon Musk is, is an oligarch. He's a South African oligarch, worshiped by Americans.

Jen: Make an ugly ass.

DeJah: Trucks.

Jen: Mm. Um, all right. Well,

Joe: if you're a fan of satire though, there have been, I think if these are the times when SNL gets really funny Oh, absolutely. And stuff like that. Absolute, absolutely. The, the guy, he's not on this cast yet, I don't think, but he, he got to do weekend update. He's akin, he's from Minnesota.

DeJah: Mm.

Joe: I don't know if you caught that, but it's worth a watch. He was so funny. He's like. He's setting up the clip of the ice guy and he is slipping on ice.

DeJah: Oh, yes. [00:49:00]

Joe: And he, he's like, oh my God. Yes. He's talking about like, he's really serious. And he's like, let's just play it again. And he just, I just kept falling down over and over again.

My gosh. And had a really punchline at the end. And then the other guy from SNL, and I'm blanking on his name, but I just watched his standup comedy special. He is, he's an immigrant. And, um, trying to shares his story hysterical, standup special, and just really well done. It reminded me like it was like on Chappelle level stuff.

Mm-hmm. Like it was just like really good social commentary, but just still, also really funny.

DeJah: That's awesome.

Jen: Good to know.

DeJah: There you go. I'm, I need all the last one. Did. Yeah. I'm, I'm, yeah. I'm just surviving on Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. Mm-hmm. And yeah. Um,

Jen: and, um, oh, my John Stewart. Oh

DeJah: yes. Lot of the Daily show.

Absolutely. Um, but then also, um, oh my gosh, I'm blanking on his name. Seth Myers. The one that most recently came after to have fired. Um, yeah. Like they're that whole Jimmy Kimmel thing. Jesus, Jesus Christ. Like, yeah. Just to, we, we need those things. We need the [00:50:00] satire. 'cause I, I, honestly, I still think it's the humor that's gonna get us through.

We need to protest with ridiculous signs and costumes. We need to let them know that we are, we are not going to take the bait. Have a violent fucking revolution against ice. Mm-hmm. We're not gonna take that bait because that's what he wants to be able to say and pull the trigger on the Insurrection Act and try to turn our military against their own families.

Like, yeah. And with that,

Jen: I was about to say, whew, how do we wrap this one up?

DeJah: So this was gonna be a tough episode, like no matter what we were gonna do anyway, but like, um, thanks for taking this ride. With us on our first camera journey and, um, so many subjects and of depth and absurdity. Yeah. Um,

Jen: yeah, it's, it's been, it's been a little bit, I don't know, a little over a month I guess, or whatever, since we were in the studio here, but it seems like a lifetime has happened between then with everything going on, so,

DeJah: yes.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for joining us and, I don't know, riding this, [00:51:00] like you said, riding this ride with us and mm-hmm. I don't know how, however, you wanna take us home outta this one, buddy.

DeJah: Oh. My fellow Americans just keep rambling

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