Post Vacation Ramblings of Rested Minds
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DeJah: [00:00:00] my blood pressure like rose. I felt it in my body when there was a 20 something year old man. Trying to talk to me about menopause.
Oh, I, I fucking boiled. I was like, who, who was the casting fucking director for this shit? Who thought that I, a woman entering, going through menopause? Wants a 26-year-old Chad to tell me about how I'm feeling. [00:01:00]
Jenn: Ramblers
just
Joe: straight back to the nineties.
Jenn: Listen, I am on a bit of a nineties kick because I, you know, football season is upon us and I am. So stoked even though I have my fantasy football draft this weekend, and I have done zero prep and have no time to do any prep, so we're just gonna wing it and hopefully win it.
But Netflix just dropped a docuseries on the Cowboys, which love or hate 'em. I do both. I am a Cowboys fan. We still
DeJah: accept
Jenn: you. Thank you. Thank you. And Netflix just dropped a docuseries about the Cowboys. It's called America's Team, the Gambler and his cowboys, which I hate. Jerry Jones. Okay.
Mm-hmm. I think a lot of people do, but it has been very educational and obviously [00:02:00] very rooted in the nineties because those were the glory days for the Cowboys and they haven. They've barely made it to the playoffs since. So they for damn sure haven't gotten to the Super Bowl since. But it's been very enlightening and educational.
'cause whenever all of that was happening, I was a wee one not quite able to understand football or really be that interested in, at that age. So I'm, I've been stuck in the nineties because of that. But, but just excellent, you know, the Troy Aman and the Emmett Smith and Michael Irving and Dion Primetime, you know, ugh.
Ms. Estes. Oh, I
DeJah: I was in northern Wisconsin in Packer country during that time, so we hated you.
Jenn: Yeah. There were a couple big games there that
DeJah: happened was there was no getting around. Oh my God. I, I would like to have it on the record. Right, that it was actually the Bears who had the first documentary in the Super Bowl shuffle.
I believe that was 1983.
Jenn: Dasia is a Bears fan, and our [00:03:00] teams play the Cowboys and the Bears play this season. That's right. So we're definitely be getting together for that too. What I,
DeJah: I was looking, I was looking at the schedule and I was like,
Joe: that'll be a
DeJah: good time. Yeah. Yeah. I
Joe: mean. I'm a closeted Lions fan over here, and we finally got a, Hey, we finally have a Thursday night game.
Hey, how about that? This year, it's been so long, my conference buddy over here. I could, I could watch him. I could watch him on
Jenn: Christmas and Thanksgiving
Joe: and Christmas.
Jenn: Don't they always play on Thanksgiving too? I, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. But it's still not an, I don't know if they play the night game. I don't know.
Yeah, I think there's like, isn't it three games on Thanksgiving now?
Joe: I don't know. And then Netflix has games now on Christmas, and they did really well this year. Mm-hmm. So I bet that's gonna be a new thing.
Jenn: Well, and I think the chiefs and Chiefs and I, I can't think of the team play, I think in Brazil.
Oh,
Joe: international.
Jenn: Yeah.
Joe: I remember they went through that and they played another countries and I feel like America was collectively like, eh, yeah. Like when the Panthers played over in England.
DeJah: Yeah.
Jenn: Yeah. Well, you [00:04:00] know, we have a good friend that went to that game. She's, well, she went to that one and then they also played in Germany.
Yeah. This past season. And she went to that one as well. I was like, man, that's a long way to go to see the Panthers loose. Yeah. No shit. But it was for the experience. Oh, that's right. Course. But apparently it's, you know, it was starting to really pick up. You know, so it's been all the talk of like, you know, is there gonna be, is NFL gonna ex, is it gonna be the IFL, the International Football League?
Like expand into, if MA
DeJah: has anything to do with it. You imagine. You imagine, yeah. If the NFL, although, you know what, I, I absolutely massive props to the NFL for being able to read the room sending out that Taylor Swift tweet Oh, man. Where they're just mocking how angry they are about her just being there.
Yeah.
Jenn: Well, and I watch, I, I like the Kelsey Brothers and I watched the podcast episode, the New Heights podcast episode with Herb. It broke the internet. It. [00:05:00] I think in the first, it was like the first hour just under, then all of a sudden it just like cut off. So the internet broke and that, 'cause there was a whole, like, it was almost two hours long or right out two hours long.
So there was still plenty left, but it, it was good. And I loved yeah, I don't know. It was funny. I love that she just embraces it like she doesn't know, you know what I mean? That all the Brads and Chads out there are like, get her off my screen. I wanna see the football, whatever. Well, that's,
DeJah: that's what's so amusing to me.
Like earlier I asked you, like, when you're like, oh, she's an influencer, and I'm like. Who does she influence? Because like to me, because I am not plugged in. Yeah. Right. I'm just like, so does that mean like you're a walking commercial? Yeah. Pretty much. Like that's all, that's what you, you are, and all these people think that.
Everyone sees what they write because they're so special.
Jenn: Well, what happens is, what happens is they get on social media and they get a really big following for whatever reason. And so then these companies will reach out to these individuals that have a large following [00:06:00] and be like, Hey, we'll give you our products for free if you promote them.
No, I'm,
DeJah: I'm talking about the, the people who complain. I'm talking about the people who go on the internet and complain, right. That leave their nasty comment about her being there and, and think that they're making con a contribution to the world.
Jenn: Oh. Oh. I don't think that that's just an asshole
DeJah: like
Jenn: that.
Yeah. That that's not really an influencer.
DeJah: Influencer is. No, was I was, yeah. I wasn't saying an influencer was a Brad. I was saying the Brad or Chad. Oh yeah. That's on there. Complaining. Oh yeah. Right. Like not the influencer, but yeah. I was like, okay, I get that. But it's a whole, yeah. Bizarre world of where people place priorities and values on things so differently.
Yeah. Yeah. Like so. Very much so. That is the
Joe: moral of the vir. So last Christmas the economist asked a thousand gen Zs what they wanted to be when they grow up. What per what percentage do you think said, I want to be an influencer?
Jenn: Oh God, more than I'd like to admit.
Joe: 93
Jenn: 72.
Joe: It was 57. 57. [00:07:00] Okay. But it's really funny to think about if you carry that out, like, okay, so if.
60% of the Internet's on there to influence each other. Yes. They're just watching each other's stuff. Who's in like, to your point, like influence who they're all, it's just, it's an echo chamber. Yeah. These, these are just bubbles and bubbles. That's a better way to say it. I was gonna say self satory. Yeah.
But
DeJah: they're these big words, you guys, and being, being somebody who's not in there. It is very sociologically Fascinating for me guys. So you go ahead and be, play your little ant games while I sit outside and watch. I think,
Jenn: I think for me now, you know, we had such a, a, a bout in culture where we were so tired of being sold to, right.
So like, think like car salesman or mm-hmm. You, whatever. Like we so tired of being sold to, and now I'm so tired of being sold to in that way. Like if I, yeah, I just scroll right past, or if I see something, you know, that's influence or like, I'm like. Fuck off. Like I'll make my own decisions about the products I use.
Like I'm, I'm numb to it. I'm, I'm tired of it now. So,
Joe: yeah. It's weird how much you can tell it's an ad. Like, my wife will play reels on tv 'cause I don't keep my Instagram on my phone anymore. So [00:08:00] like when my kids come home or my wife has funny reels that they've been sending to me, they'll just airplay it to the TV and be like, look, dad, here's all the reels I sent you since last time I saw you.
Yeah. Let us help you catch up. Yeah. When you. When you, you can almost instantly tell when it's an ad, there's something about it. It's just like, oh, gross stop.
voicemail: Yep,
DeJah: absolutely. I got I my blood pressure like rose. I felt it in my body when there was a 20 something year old man. Trying to talk to me about menopause.
Oh, I, I fucking boiled. I was like, who, who was the casting fucking director for this shit? Who thought that I, a woman entering, going through menopause? Wants a 26-year-old Chad to tell me about how I'm feeling. Here's what's happening in your body.
Jenn: Yes. That is exactly how like, oh,
DeJah: just fucking kick rocks.
Jenn: If somebody, somebody thought [00:09:00] that it would be a good idea. Because we're like, oh, these women go into menopause and being Cougars. Cougars. Yes. Let's give him the young man. I'm like, I was like, no, we
DeJah: are. Oh man.
Jenn: But do you know a part of that means like your Le Lido is, you know, was a dude completely, you know, it was
DeJah: a dude that decided that, 'cause a woman would be like.
Nah, she ain't gonna be responsive to that. Yo.
Joe: All set. My wife has showed me many of these from a woman. She's probably like in her fifties. She's super funny and it's called the We Don't Care club. And she just makes a list of things she doesn't care about anymore for everybody that's in perimenopause and menopause.
Yes, yes. And they're super funny. Mm-hmm. This
DeJah: is this tricks. Yep.
Jenn: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I was recently chatting with my brother. I've talked about how, on here, about how close we are and he was getting fired up about something. Politically and, and how he was feeling about it and how, you know, he doesn't really share much of that kind of stuff on his own social media because he knows that it can be, he's sharing it from a place of, not to get a reaction, but to share something that's important to him.
Mm-hmm. [00:10:00] And but he doesn't want to incite a reaction or even be in that place of like, have to argue back and forth mm-hmm. With a dumb fuck. And so. Anyway, he recently was so passionate about something that he shared it and then he was feeling anxiety around the fact that he shared it and everything.
And he was like, I just, I don't really know, you know, coping wise, like how to separate myself from that or whatever. And I was like, well, I was like, you look at the bucks, the, the bucket, the hold you fucks. Mm-hmm. And you just take that one and you throw it outside of it and you protect the fucks that you still wanna give in your bucket.
'cause
DeJah: if, if it had that much value to him, right. He needs to still hold onto that. It has that much value. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So who gives a fuck Yeah. About, 'cause obviously it cathart made him feel better to be able to put it out because Oh yeah, I get it. There's a lot going on. So yeah, brother. Yeah. You you take a fucking handful fucks and you chuck it because you
Jenn: don't give a fuck.
Chuck it out the bucket, chuck from the fuck bucket. [00:11:00]
DeJah: Oh, tell your bucket is empty and then you're part of the club.
Jenn: Yeah, yeah, for real. Getting, getting closer and closer every day. So it's been a minute since we've been in this. We just like fired off, man. It's been a minute since we've been in the studio and last time we were here, do a little.
Time warp. Jody, have a time warp sound. Yep. I just
Joe: played it.
Jenn: You are welcome. Sounds brought to you by Deja.
So last time we were here, or gosh, this was several episodes ago, we were getting ready to go to Jamaica. Yeah, man. And we now forgive me. Yamen.
DeJah: Yeah.
Jenn: Joe actually emailed whenever all the episodes are ready to go up and he was like, have a great time in Jamaica, Yaman in the email. So how was it, how was Jamaica buddy?
Like I wasn't There
DeJah: was like, what the fuck is she asking me? Like she [00:12:00] wasn't with me. Like she's interviewed me. Well friend who I wish could have joined we're outta practice. Oh God. It was, it was amazing. It was fantastic. It was spiritually enlightening. Mm. It was highly educational and funny. That's a funny.
But and it was all around just an amazing good time. I agree. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jenn: It was, we, I mean, we had no travel issues. Mm-hmm. We we, we went with, we go with the flow, like we had a great time. And although we did, ton of things.
DeJah: We were still,
Jenn: well the first, the first three days we did nothing.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. We got there, we plopped in a chair, and then we would migrate to a new chair and a new bar and, and. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But some of those chairs were in water. Yes. We took a photo. So, you know, when you go to an inclusive resort, you get a [00:13:00] photo shoot for free. Yes. Oh. At least like. You, maybe not like all of them, but mind
DeJah: you, mind you listener, these two fabulous female friends decided to go to a resort that is typically reserved for couples.
Jenn: Yeah. Adult only couples. And so anyway, they gave us our photo shoot and we were like, you know what? We're gonna do this. Yes. And we had so much fun. We went hard
DeJah: in the paint and things popped out. Yep. You know what?
Jenn: We were jumping. She went down, Tasia popped a tit out. It's fine.
DeJah: The, we had the, listen, our photographer was laughing.
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Because he kept trying to make it serious. And I am, I've one, I don't even take selfies. I have no, like what do I do with my body?
So I'm also just very animated and ridiculous. And I was like, no, I'm here with my best friend. Yeah. So of course. We're gonna make it [00:14:00] either uncomfortable looking. Yeah. Or as funny as hell. So, oh man.
Jenn: We did, we did. Some of them are priceless. It was a great time. It was like right at the golden hour too.
Mm-hmm. So we had a great, anyway, it was a lot of fun. Jamaica was fantastic. Mm-hmm. We, the, I think one of the highlights for both of us and for different reasons and some of the same was the ANA tour? The, the Cannabis Tour. Oh, Johanna, yeah. The cannabis tour. We, the, the travel together, that was, it was a
Joe: highlight.
Jenn: Uhhuh Uhhuh Joe's proud of himself. Yes. Yeah. I mean, the travel to get there was interesting and had us laughing. Hilarious. And 'cause our,
DeJah: our driver had never gone up there before. He had never driven there, and it was a. Two tenuous road. Yes. It was like very most of the road was gone, so he was doing a, if you've ever driven on crappy roads and especially if you're going an incline where you're, you're rocking back and [00:15:00] forth mm-hmm.
To the road to try to get your way up. We did that for like an hour.
Jenn: Yep. Yeah, we got to, once we got to a certain point in Ocho Rios, then we went up like literal fernly. It was Yep. Engraved into the side of the wall. Mm-hmm. Like in the right. It was absolutely stunning. And then that part ended and we, we turned off onto a gravel road.
And, I mean, listen, there was not room for two cars. It was, there was like potholes everywhere, but.
Joe: Potholes.
Jenn: At least we know you're listening intently to us, Joe. Anyway, we finally get there and once we get to the farm, like it's just beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I mean, yeah. And they take us up to our driver, like took us up to the, the store balcony, restaurant store. It was, yeah. And we got to just sit there and chill.
'cause we were there early and sit there and chill and they had like coffee and tea. Mm-hmm. Then like, just beautiful views. And it started pouring rain, but we were in this covered place, so like, and you know, in Jamaica it rains for like five minutes then [00:16:00] clears up. And so it was just, we were just, we felt like we were in a rainforest.
Like it was just beautiful. Yeah. And then we actually get to go on our tour. And especially for me as such a novice, it was so educational to see. The, just from start to end, you know? '
DeJah: cause the tour wasn't just, we went through and walked through a field of. Weed. Yeah, yeah. No, it was actually their full plant.
So we got to see their from clone because I don't technically do seed, but from clone all the way to full grown flower product and then how they then dry break it down and then make all of their super cool products. Mm-hmm. Things such as face face oils and, or, oh, I'm obsessed with it, hand creams or, oh my gosh, for arthritis, that stuff is banging.
And they had a, they were working on, they had already sold out, it was a, a sun cream for Afterburn. And I turned, and I look at this woman who's giving us a tour and I was like. You know your white audience like [00:17:00] you. She, I'm like that, that's, she's like, we don't even have it. I'm like, it's sold out, didn't it?
I bet it immediately sold out. And she's like, yes. Yeah. Yes it did. Yeah. And I was like, that is, Hey, you come, you come on vacation here you are white, you are, you are gonna burn at some point. Yeah. And that stuff is perfect. Instantly taking away the pain at the same time as soothing and healing. Ugh. It was just
Jenn: so cool to see.
I mean, I, we were literally in a lab, like there was a whole process of, we were in our, the
DeJah: jackets
Jenn: and the hair notes and the booties and Exactly. The whole nine yards. Yeah. Yeah. And there were still some places we couldn't go into. Mm-hmm. For maintenance re, I mean for contamination reasons. So it was just, it was so cool.
Very educational to see the machines and like literal, every,
DeJah: every joint is hand packed. By a wonderful Jamaican women. It's all women. Mm-hmm. They're all, and it is precision. It is epic. Yeah. Like, and they're with, you know, they're cracking jokes. 'cause again, in the, in the botany world, [00:18:00] males aren't really necessary after you designed a, a female that'll, that'll produce necessary flowers.
Right. So yeah, they're joking about their, like all female staff and like they obviously they have many, many men Yes. That work there. But in the plant, it just happened to be that, yeah, it was women. But they I loved also the fact that they grew. All of their food required Yes. To feed the, it was either, I think it was like 73 or 93 employees.
Like it was a large number of employees because it takes 45 minutes to an hour to get anywhere from there. Mm-hmm. So you can't go on lunch. Right? Yep. So they literally, and our, the meal that we had was so good. Oh my God. Amazing. And they gave us a tour of that. We got to walk through and look at everything that went into everything that we ate.
Yep. It was, it was the most holistic, delicious in both. Taste bud and mental stimulation experience that I've had. It was [00:19:00] fantastic.
Jenn: And then to top it off, we got back and then they had a joint rolling class.
DeJah: Yeah.
Jenn: And I, full transparency, have never rolled a joint. Well, technically I still have 'em because I was not successful,
DeJah: but the language and
Jenn: in the
DeJah: Jamaican pl style, just wanna say yes.
Jenn: And the, the lady that was showing us, and I mean, she just basically had to come over and I was like, please,
DeJah: please help me.
Jenn: Yeah. Oh. It was, it was greatest. It was sad. So
DeJah: funny. And you weren't the only one. No, that's true. That's true. You weren't not the only one, you know, so, hey, it was, I was really appreciative you went on that journey with me.
'cause it was, it was important to me. I, the, I think the greatest thing though, all of that, all everything we described fantastic, amazing tip to chip. They had a garden of plants just for hugging. Yep.
Jenn: Because people wanted to like, touch and interact with the plants. And so you
DeJah: got to walk in and you could go plant to plant, giving them a hug, breathe in some guy.
You take my carbon dioxide. I fucking love [00:20:00] you.
It was fantastic. It was great. Yeah. And we,
Jenn: we did get a, we captured a picture of Desha hugging the plant. You better believe I had
DeJah: more than one. Yeah.
Jenn: It was very cathartic experience for Deja. Yeah, it was a great time. So shout out to them and you can, and they actually have a, an online store. Mm-hmm.
So if you're like an, their products are that we're telling you, you can, the most top of the line I've ever seen. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And they're coming out with new flavor profiles. I follow 'em on Instagram and I see on their stories all the time, like a new flavor profile of a bud. Like it's, it's very cool.
Yep.
DeJah: They're doing it right. They're doing it right. Amazing. Yeah, and it's, I mean, obviously girl and, and just their crime stats. When you decriminalize Yep. You stop criminalizing people for using cabinet cannabis, especially where it's partially religious. Mm-hmm. Come on now. Yeah, it's just become a lot, lot safer
Jenn: and it was really.
Cool to, to see like just how normal it is, right? Mm-hmm. [00:21:00] And then like there was one dispensary that we walked into and it literally reminded me of like, you know, breweries have a tap list and they'll usually list them. Mm-hmm. Lightest to darkest or whatever. And that's how they had the, the list, the, the menu for the, the the different options that you could have to going out through your
DeJah: indica, through your sativa, going through your high beds, you know, just talk about same thing. What kind of, you know, do, are you looking for a heavy stout? Like you just want something full, like you want a slow sipper, right? Yeah.
Versus like, oh, you wanna, you want you want something up, you want something lighter, you wanna, you know, drink a little faster. That would be, you know, leaning into your sativa. It is exactly the same. I personally see literally no difference other than, alcohol will kill you. There's that part. So I, I, yeah, like I, I am a huge advocate.
It's so much healthier for you. But again, thank you for that experience. That was Oh, yeah. It was so valuable to me. But just all around, just fun, ridiculous time.
Jenn: It, and [00:22:00] I'm interested, ridiculous time to see the diff like being able to compare now, like. The dispensaries and things mm-hmm. And, and menus of all of that in Jamaica.
And then, because it's what we do, we're getting to hop off on another trip to Colorado very, very soon. And so to be able to compare the two, like how, you know, it's really hard
DeJah: being single women living with our cats. Yeah, we don't get much, even though neither one of us have cat. Well I just find it funny because we like do all this fun stuff all the time.
Yeah. But you know, you hear compare and somebody will be like, oh, she must have cats. She's a single woman who's of a certain age. Yeah. She must be sitting at home learning how to knit with her Cats
Jenn: not there yet in my life.
DeJah: No, we are jet setters. Yeah. Yeah. Having a great time. Oh yeah, yeah. So yeah, we're about to go compare Colorado's dispensaries, which again fantastic.
Jenn: Yep. Mm-hmm. And see Teddy swims. Oh. Oh. We've been talking about seeing Teddy. I mean, we booked it back in like December of last year and now it's [00:23:00] finally happening. Yep. It's finally here. So, yep. At Red Rocks. Yep. Just
DeJah: a glorious American venue. Mm-hmm.
Jenn: Yep. It's gonna be a bucket list item I can check off.
Hell yeah, man. Well, speaking of, since we haven't been in the studio in a while, we have a listener voicemail. Yep. That speaks back to a previous episode. And that's really all I know about it. So, Joe, that's your cue. Here we go. So I just
voicemail: got done listening to your latest episode with David, fantastic show.
Love Thematic Psychology. It was one of my favorite subjects I took when I was in school. For massage therapy and just all kinds of physical releases in that class.
DeJah: Shout out David. Trauma
voicemail: releases with massage. So now to answer your question, who should play trauma in Inside Out three oh, the answer is James m Boy, and I was trying to come up with a counterpart as a female actress in case they a female actress.
It'd be kinda hard to not pick a female [00:24:00] actress anyway. I can't think of one right now. Maybe you guys can hypothesize about that, but you need someone who has the range and the depth of emotion that James McAvoy can convey. And the only thing I can think of is that movie split.
DeJah: Mm-hmm.
voicemail: Where he was 27 different
DeJah: mm-hmm.
Personalities. Oh yeah.
voicemail: And in one person, and he could just switch them at the drop of a hat. He's amazing. I love him. Love him. Love your show. Everything was great. Thank you guys for everything you do. David. You were awesome. Joe. You're still the man.
DeJah: Alright. I'm part of this. I'm part of this.
Jenn: Oh man, Jay, that I completely forgot that we posed that question.
So man, thanks Listener for, for bringing that back. James, I think we just started listing off hot guys we wanted to see in movies. That's true. Probably
DeJah: just we're like hot guys. We'll just take them to see you now.
Jenn: Yeah. And Alyssa, yeah, right. James Voy would be, mm-hmm. That [00:25:00] is, that movie is intense.
Just
DeJah: made me think while he, I was like, yeah, yeah. Really trauma. Yeah, there's, it's really multidimensional. And then I was instantly like maybe. Maybe Daniel Day Lewis will come out of retirement.
Yeah.
Joe: I'm trying to think like what he would say in the, in the tone of like, I, I'll drink your milkshake. Yes. That would be like a very trauma. That is
DeJah: exactly, but you know, it would be so. Poised and you feel emotion
Jenn: as far as the, but James ve
DeJah: is, he is, he's a very dynamic
Jenn: actor. Immediately just went to X-Men when he plays Professor X, but mm-hmm. But, but just also just OSS depth too, because that, that, that movie is unreal. O Yeah. As far as female that has like, that I can think of as like emotional depth the first person that popped in my mind is Carrie Washington.
Mm-hmm. I feel like she conveys a lot of different [00:26:00] emotion. She can E moat very well. Tilda Swinton.
DeJah: Why am I blanking on who that is? That's great that I have a little, just think no color whatsoever, pal than me. Just, oh my. Yes. So the line in the witch and the wardrobe, she can be very, she can do dramatic.
She can do now, yes. Mm-hmm.
Joe: For some
DeJah: reason, I, she's very androgynous. I think I, I really like that about her. Yes.
Joe: I'm getting Kathy Bates. Oh, yeah.
DeJah: Oh, love some Kathy Bates. Yeah. She just
Joe: smashed that guy's knees. True misery. Baby misery.
Jenn: Yeah. Or, or if you think about somebody that could do like. We like in depth emotions as well, but bring a lot of humor to it.
Melissa McCarthy. Oh yeah, that'd
DeJah: be fun. She, she is one of my spirit animals. I love her so much. Oh my goodness. Amy Adams might be a good one too.
Jenn: I haven't seen her anything recently. Mm-hmm. But I was always impressed by her. Yeah. I don't know. Listen, pick any of us off the street. We've all got trauma. We can.
No
DeJah: doubt. My gosh. No doubt.
Jenn: Yeah, man. I did not know her name was Tilda [00:27:00] Swinton, but I know exactly who you're talking about now. Yeah. Thanks to good old Googles. I'm like,
DeJah: I, and I love her, but I instantly, my mind was like the absence of color.
Jenn: Yeah, that is
DeJah: very,
Jenn: very true. Like she's got you beat buddy. I know, man.
I'm really appreciating my freckles right now. Also, speaking of that, you did not get Martin in Jamaica? No. Mm. And we definitely thought that it was just common course and it was gonna happen, but Well, thank you. You did not thank you. Life
DeJah: Wife.
Jenn: Proud of you. Had a
DeJah: responsible adult with me at all times.
Reapply. Reapply. Yeah.
Jenn: Well, we actually had a decent amount of cloud cover. Mm-hmm. It was still sunny and warm for sure, but it wasn't like blasting we so Yeah. For the, for a lot of it. So
DeJah: I'm still proud of us that we made it back on the paddle boards. Real proud.
Jenn: Oh my God. So, like I said, the first few days we didn't really do much and then we packed the rest of it into the last three days.
And so one more And, and because there had been, with the cloud cover and stuff, there had been high winds [00:28:00] and so with really high winds, like you couldn't go out on the paddleboards and the other things that they had there on the water. So finally it was our, I think our last full day there. And we go, it was the last chance we had.
We got up that morning, the flag was green. Yep. So we were able to get on the paddleboards. And so we get on there and we're, we start heading out and then I was like, man, we don't even really have to paddle. Like the wind is pushing us. We were,
DeJah: we were going on a clip.
Jenn: Yeah.
DeJah: We, we really were to throw out an a nautical number.
We're going at 15 knot.
Jenn: And then all of a sudden I was like, we should just, we gotta turn around and go against all of this. Yes. On the way back. And it was. And listen lot. Oh, we
DeJah: went, we went ways we know we went past where we were supposed to go. Yeah. Okay. Rebels mom, we're sorry. We, we know
Jenn: Well, and also what fueled it?
So we, we also talked about the nude beach last time. Yeah. And I'm a little sad to say that we did not make it to the, well, we technically did make it to, to the, we tried the nude. But it, we were there for our dinner reservation. Yes. So we couldn't exactly walk into the restaurant naked. So so we, [00:29:00] we saw where the nude beach was.
Yeah. We were like, yeah, we'll come back, we'll figure it out. You know, and then time just, it didn't allow well, and it wasn't open when we had planned, we're like, Hey, we'll paddleboard over there.
DeJah: And
Jenn: then no, but we also couldn't, yeah, they wouldn't let us paddleboard over there. But anyway, so then our backup plan was this morning when we got on the paddleboards, we were gonna go out a ways.
Mm-hmm. And then just lay down on our paddleboards topless, and we were like, we still get it done. Yeah. And then as we started heading out there, there were these men, you know, that come around on their own little paddleboards or canoes or whatever, like selling all of their products. You know, the
DeJah: gun just.
Salesman.
Jenn: Yes. On their almost gondolas. Yes. And so then we realized we couldn't do that either because we didn't wanna give them a free show. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So nakedness did
DeJah: not no happen on the beach. No. So as we kept trying to like get further and then we were like, yeah, we are we're gonna have to work our way back now.
Yeah. Yep, yep. We were both exhausted. Yeah. We dug hard. Yep.
Jenn: There was no standing. 'cause the wind was so strong. And then there would like, and we had, like, we had a. [00:30:00]
DeJah: We were getting picked up for something that day too, so we had to get back. Yep. Like we would be late.
Jenn: We were heading up back up to Ocho Rios to do zip lining.
Oh, that's
DeJah: right. That's right. And the waterfall climb. So we had to hurry, but
Jenn: we made it back. We are obviously, we're here. So we're not ai. We are real. We are real. We we're not AI yet. I'm real boy.
Joe: Unless this is all a simulation. Yeah.
Jenn: So our listeners have been active because in addition to that follow up email, thank you listener for that.
Great suggestion for an actor playing trauma maybe inside out three. I I have actually gone back now and watched Inside Out two since that episode when we talked about it with David, because I was, it was on my brain and I was like, I want some therapy courtesy at Disney. So we do, we, we mentioned a couple of times that if anybody that you could text us, text us at our number.
And that, and Deja said that if someone did that, she would read it in her best [00:31:00] thespian
DeJah: access.
Jenn: Shakespearean accent. Shakespearean? Yes. Oh Lord. Okay. So we have a text message for Deja to read with, with a question. And if. You know, getting into this, if you wanna send us a text message as well, instead of leaving a voicemail you can do so by texting at 9 1 9 2 9 5 0 5 7 8.
Or if you would like to leave us a voicemail, you can call that number. It goes straight to voicemail and we will get it and not listen to it until Joe plays it for us. So first up, this, the first Shakespearean. I bet you're only gonna do this once.
DeJah: I was literally gonna say. I don't have to read them.
Every time somebody
Jenn: does like
DeJah: verbal
Joe: contract, it's binding.
Jenn: Yes. Alright, so thank you for this text message. All right. I've never, I have no idea what I'm about to. Okay. Listen, you can give it a gut college try, and then if you bail. All right.[00:32:00]
DeJah: I'm trying to channel old. Old. All right, I bla.
Jenn: She have to be British. You gotta say something in your head that sounds
Joe: on. I got better music if we're doing that. Hold on.
DeJah: Okay. Okay. Okay. You want Shakespearean or British? No, no. I was joking. I was joking. Okay. All right. Hello, ramble. I, the de Ts reading this in Shakespearean tone. My question in the name, my question in the theme of the Tyler's chiller song. My brain went, who? Da. That has become a TikTok trend. If thou had rabies, who would?
How? What?[00:33:00]
Jenn: Joe's cracking himself up over here.
DeJah: Oh. Oh my God. Okay. I should have asked questions. I'm like, how do I read the emojis? Happy emoji Happy. Okay, I'm looking by my word. All right. Who, who is that? Who's, who is on your pain list? I'm trying to read. Who is that on your Biden list? German. I'm better. Take this away from me.
I'm dying. I'm dying. Remember? It does not have to be names. It can be people who get on the elevator before you get out or the person. Without cut off just to slam on the brakes to make a right turn. We almost went rushing. I heard it starting to come out. Okay.
Jenn: I'm dying. I was trying not to snort. That's not fair.[00:34:00]
Listen buddy, you committed and I support you. My face hurts.
DeJah: Listen, I, I
Joe: feel like we're gonna need an English translation of that.
DeJah: Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna I should have read it first. I would hit an emoji and my brain went, huh?
Jenn: Glitch. Okay. Well, to, to be fair, there is like teeth and vampires and laughing emojis.
So, okay. In 21st Century Translation, it says, hello Rammers. I hope the Dej is reading this in Shakespearean tone. My question is, or my question in the theme of Tyler Childers's song, that has become a TikTok trend. If you had rabies, who's on your biting list? Remember, it doesn't have to be names. It can be people who get on the elevator before you get out, or the person who cuts people off just to slam on brakes to make a right turn.
Okay, so who I, I dunno if you guys have heard this song. Tyler Childers. Okay. The, the Country Star
DeJah: You played me. The song I did not catch. Who was Tyler Childers, right? Oh, [00:35:00] you played me the song, right? Yes. So then again, while I was reading that, I was like, wait, what is this? I was all sorts of discombobulated trying to read.
Okay, sorry.
Jenn: No, no, no. So he just had a new album come out a couple weeks ago and Bitless is a song on it. And I remember when I first heard it, I'm not gonna lie, like I love this question. The first person that came to mind was Trump. For me, of course. Yes. If you haven't listened to the song, we can't play it, unfortunately.
Mm-hmm. Because of copyright laws, but it is a pretty funny song. Mm-hmm. Pretty straightforward and simple. And just another way to say like, I don't like you.
DeJah: I would, I would like to, to point out that the. Rabies virus is quite horrendous. So I don't know if it's 'cause they get on the elevator that you want them getting six injections in the stomach to live, but like, I, I mean, I get it.
Trump. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jenn: Mm-hmm. Well, you know, I think all, all fun and games [00:36:00] because yesterday I was got very aggravated because you, okay. Listen, rabies? No, I don't wish rabies, but if we're talking about in the fun of it all, I'm just being like
DeJah: a, I'm like, that's my very literal brain was like, oh my God, rabies is really bad.
Actually, wish I could pick rabies. 'cause that's, that's pretty, pretty mean, man. Like,
Jenn: but people that drive me crazy, that get on my nerves are the people that go to the gas station. And they get gas, but then they get outta their car and go in the store. Oh yeah. And just leave there. Leave their car there.
Especially if it's like a small gas station. Yeah. Listen, if you're going to Bucky's and there's like 500,000 station like gas pumps, I like Who raised you? Yeah. Like who raised you have at it at Bucky's? I don't give a shit. That's just another parking space, to be honest. But at a small like gas station that doesn't have that many.
Mm-hmm Don't do it. No,
DeJah: don't do it. No.
Jenn: Those
DeJah: are the same people that loudly play videos in the restaurant. Ugh. Loudly. Mm-hmm.
Joe: Yep. Man, [00:37:00] I bet 90% of the people that park there and go into the gas station is are buying zens. I just feel like that's true. Mm-hmm. What's a zen? It's that, it's that little packet that's like a chew packet, but it's just nicotine.
Yeah. You're, you're just a, so
DeJah: you're an Uber douche.
Joe: It's like, I'm not, I'm healthy. I'm not smoking. So let me just get the worst part about smoking and just do that. Exactly. Yeah.
DeJah: How I can totally still lose my job, but I am cool.
Yeah, no, it's yeah. No, no, no. I, I do, the song was very, very funny. It's very funny. Yeah, it's true. It's pretty Spy Rub in the same age of
Joe: like Really?
Jenn: Yeah.
Joe: How about that? He did the original Beastie Boys like know that's what he's up to. Not
Jenn: Tyler Childers. Oh
Joe: shit.
Jenn: Yeah, so definitely that. I will have to agree the whole, like somebody who pulls out and you're just zooming right along and somebody pulls out in front of you and there is literally no one behind you.
Yes. Like they could have waited one more car instead of [00:38:00] making you slam on your brakes. Oh, I yell a lot of expletives whenever that happened. Yes. Or
Joe: I think the ironic thing though is that person has no idea. None. No. Because they have no thought of others. So they ruined their day and they're just like, boop, right turn,
DeJah: right.
Even, even better. Like how around here, you'll, you'll have two lanes, right? Someone who's behind you has a full nother lane to go around you and continue, or get in front of you and continue at that accelerated rate. Oh, no. Right? They get around you and then slow the fuck down. So I'm like, I, I what?
Joe: I don't get the beeping immediately after the light turns green. Oh, right.
Jenn: Mm-hmm. Like,
Joe: I get it. You might be in a rush, but Okay. Calm down.
DeJah: Yeah. Yeah. I count to three.
Joe: You do you get beeped at? No.
Jenn: No, no, no, no, no. If a person in front of her hasn't gone Right, [00:39:00] that's fair. I get it.
Joe: I give you like that's a grace period.
Yeah. If they haven't seen it in three seconds, if they haven't seen it in three seconds, they're not seeing it
DeJah: then because they're looking at their phone. Right. That's one. They're hundred. So I'm like, you're, you're just like me. I would need a reminder of thank you friend. Right? Yes. And a little beep.
You don't have to be a dick about it. Right. Just a reminder to pull your head up. Just constantly
Joe: on it. Just for the next half mile.
DeJah: Yeah.
Jenn: I've seen that people get aggressive with their, the horn blow it. I'm always like, horn blows. How about the driver?
DeJah: It's like, guys, you gotta settle down. Remember, everybody's armed.
Right? Like, this is North
Jenn: Carolina. Oh my gosh, goodness. In
DeJah: America.
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Jenn: What about you? Do you have another biting list edition? Oh.
DeJah: Entitlement that you are entitled to more than your neighbor. You're entitled to special treatment above your neighbor. You're, I don't know, you were given so many consolation prizes as a child. You've [00:41:00] participation trophy. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's just. Yeah, it's astounding to me 'cause we're in very troubled times and things are very, very expensive.
Mm. And there are people who are really struggling. Yeah. And yeah, I'm just astounded when you come across people who still have no empathy or sympathy or give a shit, but then I, yeah, they, it's because they are outright preaching that empathy is a bad thing. So. I guess it makes sense.
Jenn: What about you, Joe? You got some biting list people.
Joe: Okay, so we're looking for a name. I was trying to think. Oh, it could be, it could be a name
Jenn: or a genre or a name or
Joe: a genre. A genre of people. I would say currently I don't, I don't really know. I mean, it really, it does annoy me when people take politics way too seriously.
And when I say too seriously, if you can't understand what's going on in politics right now, isn't a [00:42:00] little bit messed up mm-hmm. And be able to poke fun at it. Like, but some people just get, and I get it, there's real bad stuff. But it's both sides and I just feel like, have you, I have you even seeing
DeJah: the Gavin Newsom press office.
Joe: Yeah. And I find that really funny. Thank you. To me that's like rage baiting and I'm with you. Hysterical. I'm so with you. That's, that's reading the room and being funny and clever. Uhhuh. I, I like it. Yeah. The, I think the, I guess what I was getting at is more like it's, it's the people that I, it escaped me, but there they get so
DeJah: angry and aggressive if you try to bring preloaded, bring some levity, whatever.
Yeah. In any way into it. Can't take a joke. Absolutely. Can't take a joke when, right now is when we need that satire. Yeah. It has been lifting my soul and keeping me going because that's, that's the energy that I, that we need. Yeah. Yeah.
Jenn: I loved Stephen Colbert's response to whenever he got canceled by CBS and I mean, just, and all of like the late night show shows, hosts, like coming together and then just like, he basically was like, well, fuck it.
I'm gonna do whatever I want. Mm-hmm. [00:43:00] Until we're off the air then, you know? Yeah. I remember
Joe: Conan did that. I got fired too. Like, Hey, I'm fired. Yep. What are you gonna do? Fire me more.
Jenn: Exactly. Yeah. I love Conan too. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think in general too, and I'm, I'm, I know that I have been this person before and so I really try to be aware and cognizant and not be, but just completely oblivious people.
Like if you're walking in a store or in at a crowd at like, at like a fair or something, like, it drives me nuts. And all of a sudden you just like, stop. Because you're looking and I'm just like, and I run into you from behind you. Yes. Like, that is your fault. Yes. Like, or like, you know, like, I don't know, in Costco or something, and you're just, you know, you're, you just boom, somebody stops and cuts across and pulls outta the eye and I'm just like, you're not the only person existing in this world.
Like, and it is
DeJah: like, like, Hey, I have traveled all over and this is universal everywhere. Do not, when you are in a grocery store, do not [00:44:00] just assume the side that you drive on. Yeah. Okay. Because I'll be in Costco and I'm like, you're a tourist.
You are driving on the wrong side of the road and you are just winging yourself out in, because when you that those center aisles, man, people are cutting in and out. You gotta pay attention.
Jenn: Yeah. Oh yeah.
Joe: Same with the Costco Parka lot. That place is dead.
Jenn: Oh yes. That place raises my blood pressure. Oh, that the gosh octagon.
Joe: The people that wait like 15 minutes while somebody's for a parking space loading their car, like they're, they're pulling up the world's largest, it's Costco. I know they have 400 items. It's gonna take a minute to load it. I know. Waiting like in the time to, has to be Tetris. They're just like
DeJah: into that suburban
Joe: later on, I got nothing else to do.
This is my spot. I'm
Jenn: like, in the time you've. Sitting here, which then, especially depending upon where in, obviously we're all talking about the Raleigh Costco, right? Right. Where you, where [00:45:00] you're at to like trying to get out. Then you're blocked from getting out. If somebody is waiting for a particular spot, like in a, oh God, that place, I
DeJah: have never.
Gotten gas at Costco because I don't have the patience.
Joe: Mm. I did once and it was enough. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
DeJah: You know what? I'm proud of you. I am so proud of you. Yeah. I was like,
Joe: this is the last time I'm waiting in line for slightly moderately cheaper gas. Cheaper gas. Yeah.
DeJah: No, I'm literally, I'm literally running the, the cost value of my time.
Mm-hmm. And what else I could be doing, like, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Jenn: Which, it's so funny, right? Like thinking about gas, right? And so if you're. You see somewhere that's like it's a
DeJah: dollar 99. Everybody, by the way, just so we all fucking know, it's a dollar 99 and that is a fact.
Jenn: Okay, go on. Let's say you see somewhere that's 2 89 and then you drive down the road and it's 2 87 and like it, the 2 87 place will be packed whenever five others have 2 89.
I'm like, guys, it is 2 cents. Do you realize that's not really gonna make a difference to your bottom line here? No. But the time you just left, you can't get back. Do you realize that they
DeJah: have an agreement? [00:46:00] And in two days he's gonna be 2 cents lower down the street and they're gonna go back and forth.
'cause they're probably owned by the same guy. Yeah, yeah.
Joe: That
DeJah: absolutely happens. A wash. Just keep it the
Joe: same price, bro. Right? No, they just, well
DeJah: it's, it's same thing with like in like K jewelers and jewelry stores in the mall. They're actually all owned by the same people, but they just have competing sales with each other to draw people back and forth across the aisle to send them.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Any hoodle. Capitalism. So
Jenn: we'll just add capitalism to the biting list too, right? Or have abstract concepts. Shoot. Shoot. Oh goodness. I, yeah, buddy. Anything else for the biting list?
Joe: I feel like I would like to add to the biting list. Netflix shows that feel like they can take four episodes to have one plot item happen.
Oh, oh yeah. They're dragging some stuff out, man. Yeah. And what's up with the eight episodes? Mm-hmm. I mean, do you not think your show's good? Well, nope.
DeJah: This one, [00:47:00] this is all we can squeeze
Joe: out of this one.
Jenn: Yeah, I think it's a lot of that. 'cause you know, you used to have like CW that would have like in the shows that have like 23, I'm rewatching Vampire Diaries right now and like every season has like 20 something episodes and I'm so used to now the shorter.
Episode seasons, but I think all, a lot of that came out from like workers or like the, the actors' rights and, and like mm-hmm. How many hours a day and like stuff that they were fitting into stuff and so they Sure. And it create, creates demand. That was
Joe: probably really tough when you're around friends and you're making $1.5 million a week.
DeJah: Right. Rough. Rough.
Joe: Well, when you put it that way, Joe, give them a break. Those poor actors
Jenn: and we just consume shit differently. Right? Yeah. Like we, they, they had to do something to create demand, and if they do less episodes in a season, that means that they're more guaranteed to have a second season, so to speak.
Joe: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I do feel like they all used to be 22. Mm-hmm. And or 24. Right. Sitcoms Anyways, were 24. And then they were all 22 minutes. But then streaming's like, well this episode's 40 minutes, this one's 57.
Jenn: Oh, I know. We do whatever we want. Mm-hmm. [00:48:00] Especially with the shows on like a, BHBO max and stuff with like the last of us and Oh, game of Thrones and stuff was, you know, if they switched how Game of Thrones was, it was shorter amount of episodes.
But some of them, to your point where like an hour or an hour and a half long and you just roll the dice, you never, you were gonna get.
Joe: Those sneaky ones when you're like the last two or three hours each, you're like, come on. Yes, I have things going on.
Jenn: Apparently, no I don't. Sunday night, three hours blue to the tv, God.
Oh, well, you know, that's what life is all about. It's rolling the dice, I guess. All. Well, that's all I got.
DeJah: Thanks for thanks for being here with us to ramble about our. Non nudist vacation. Yeah.
Jenn: Wwo. There will be others.
DeJah: Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry listeners, there'll be plenty more opportunities for us to get naked.
And with that keep your [00:49:00] squiggly bits covered unless you don't want to ramble on.
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