Ramblings of a Restless Mind

Jen: [00:00:00] I would gamble on things like.

DeJah: Lizard racing.

Joe: I feel like that's just you really high on a beach there's nobody else there. You're just throwing your money on, Liz. You're not far off at all.

DeJah: Like, what bed on the blue one?

Bet on the yellow one. I'm like, I'm putting it down,

Joe: Yeah. I'd

DeJah: be like, I don't even think the lizard will exist, but my, Hey yo. What's up Ramblers? It is Jen 0.5 of this whole situation joined by the [00:01:00] delirious fun Dasia. I was going for alliteration and forgot all D words. The other one

half,

Jen: the other 0.5. Um, and we are on cloud nine because. When this episode drops, we'll be heading to Jamaica. Yes.

The next morning at 6:30 AM

DeJah: Glorious, glorious. 'cause it won't matter. It's 6:30 AM No, because you feel like a child.

Jen: Yes. Yes. And it's a direct

DeJah: flight. You guys

Joe: got the new direct flight? Nice. Yes. Yeah.

Jen: And so we will be in, they kept on backing it up. So we were originally supposed to be there at like 9 30, 10 o'clock and they kept on backing our flight up early and earlier.

So now we get, we land in Montego Bay at like eight 30 in the morning. So happy to get there. Happy to get there. I shoulda have rum in my system by nine is what I'm thinking. Hashtag goals. It's a great time

Joe: to get there. Yeah. 'cause then you're already there.

Jen: It's nice. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And we've got like the club Mo Bay for anybody traveling to Jamaica.

Unless you're flying into Kingston, which they have a different version in Kingston, but it, most [00:02:00] people fly through Montego Bay just to plug for Club Mo Bay because it's so fantastic. You, it's just a little bit expensive for coming in and departing. It's, and they're, they're not paying me to say this, it's 85 bucks per person, but you get fast tracked, you get greeted with your name on a sign.

So you feel like a celebrity? Yes. As soon as you arrive on vacation. they fast.

Joe: Do you have to use your real name or can you make up a fun name?

Jen: You have to use this on your passport, so yeah. But okay, Mr. Deceiver over here.

Joe: It just would've been funny to like Voldemort or something. No.

Jen: you get fast track through customs, which is always a pain in the ass, right?

Yes. Always nervous and especially if it's busy and you're hot, you're on vacation. 'cause there's no air conditioning in the, in the Caribbean and any of the airports and you're just ready to be having fun. and then while you're waiting to be transported to your resort, you either, depending upon what.

What resort you're going to. You go to Club Mo Bay, which all the food and Bevies are free. Um, and wifi and uh, 'cause that's a luxury we have in America, that there's free wifi at most [00:03:00] places. Or you go to like, like Sandals has their own, um, lounges as well while you're waiting for transport.

So we are partaking in all of that. Absolutely. And we're so excited. Go us.

DeJah: Damn straight. Damn, straight Stella just wants her

Joe: groove back. Katie,

DeJah: come on.

Joe: Are you guys doing all inclusive when you're there? Oh yes. Nice.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. I'm very excited to listen. I'm not rushing the trip, but we've been planning this for at least six months now.

Oh yeah. The resort that we're going to has a little island off of it and it's one of the, and then off it has like the walkway out to the, over the water bungalows there. We're not staying in one of those, 'cause those are like 30 to 40 grand for a week. On the little island piece, there's also like a separate, like a couple little pools and bars and a couple of restaurants.

And then a part of it is also a nude beach. So Joe, what's the, uh, over, under that? Deja and I find ourselves on the nude beach. I dunno.

Joe: It all sounds very white. Lotus.

Jen: Yeah. We'll see. I, I don't know the idea of, um.

Joe: I mean, you gotta go [00:04:00] look

Jen: right, but I feel like you're a creeper if you go look, but you're folding, clothed, like that's you.

Like, oh, that seems wrong for

DeJah: me. Yeah.

Jen: And I think also, I think that's a big of all of you guys

DeJah: are debating it. I'm already like, so which wrong will I be dropping?

Jen: I, and I also think, um, 'cause I went to, I toured, I do a tiny bit of travel advising on the side and a, a resort that I toured. They actually have a sign that says like. No close beyond this point kind of thing, and I think that's. Part of it, right? Like you, you wanna be glad that you're embracing it and you're not a creeper that's gonna come stare at people apparently, Joe.

Yeah.

Joe: Yeah. It's like being the only one who's high, yeah. Everybody

Jen: knows and no,

DeJah: Joe, that's not how it

Joe: works.

Jen: Somebody gets paranoid when they get high. Right.

DeJah: That might happen to you Holmes, but,

Jen: I, I wanna embrace it. I do wanna do it like it's on my bucket. Like I need you to be my, which you're already my hype man, but I need you to, [00:05:00] to get me there.

But yeah, I don't know that I can go, we've talked about this. Yeah. I don't know that I can go fully nude Uhhuh, not because of not wanting to be fully nude, but mm-hmm. I just sand. And public chairs around my south mouth. Mm-hmm. Just don't, oh yeah, I, uh, yeah, top.

DeJah: Sure. Yeah. But no. Oh, sand in the crack. Yeah.

Oh, that's the worst. Nope. No, no need for that. None of those crevices need exfoliating, you know? No. Um, and I, yeah, I'm, you know, I'm like. We will see. I'll try anything, but like Yeah. I mean if there's like nobody there, oh, I will shuck and strut. Yeah.

Jen: From every person that I've ever talked to though that has, uh, experienced or or done, whether, whether it's in Europe or Caribbean or whatever and done a nude bead, whether it's partial or food full or you know, whatever.

You have the option. Everybody always just talks about, that's a bunch of wrinkly saggy balls. Yep.

Yes. So not real excited about that part. Mm-hmm. But, [00:06:00] um, I encourage everyone there to be free. There is a free ball, there

DeJah: is specific demographic that is very confident. Mm-hmm.

Jen: Yep. They're usually the ones you see in Speedos.

Yes. Banana hammocks. Yes. That belly hanging over it. So you can't quite

DeJah: tell if they're wearing that speed or not 'cause it's blocking it off.

Jen: Mm-hmm. But yeah. Mm-hmm. What does that call, what is the male equivalent of a uba? Hmm.

DeJah: They don't pda pda.

Tell me it's a pupa for them too. That's what I wanna hear. Yes. A futa or a uba. It's the beer bellies. That's, they just get a beer belly. Yeah,

Jen: but they get to get called Dad bod. I know. It's terrible. We don't have anything like that. Terrible. No. Mom bod. Pretty sure that doesn't have the same association with it.

Yeah. Oh, I wish. Bless. I know, I know.

DeJah: Yeah. But it's, it's gonna, it's gonna be fantastic and I can't wait for all the things that we do. Yep. And, um. I can't wait to be exceptionally high [00:07:00] all the time, the entire time. And uh, it's gonna be fabulous. Magical. Yep. And I can't wait to have the experience with the mother plant.

So, um, thank you. Nature.

Jen: Yes. And we love out a very important reason as to why we're going on this trip. But it shrimp and it's because it's your birthday time. It's true. It's true. Ring it in four, five. That's

DeJah: right. That's right. I'm very exact middle aged

Jen: on the nose.

DeJah: Because baby, if I could hit 90, woo.

Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I

Jen: feel like

DeJah: you probably will. Probably good though.

Jen: I feel like you're, like, you're preserving very naturally with the thank you, with all the THC and listen, CBD

DeJah: does amazing things. I'm not giving any FDA assumptions here, but,

Jen: uh,

Joe: yeah. Are you guys, uh, big planners, do you got like stuff planned out or are you like, we're just getting there?

That's the plan. Both.

Jen: Yes. I would say yes is the answer to that. Mm-hmm. We've got a couple of excursions planned. Um, we are doing a luminous lagoon. Yes. [00:08:00] Bioluminescence. Oh, neat. So,

DeJah: yes. So my nerdy, nerdy, nerdy self. Can uh, my birthday,

Jen: yep. On my birthday, be swimming in

DeJah: a bioluminescent pool.

Jen: I just wanna see glowing water.

That's how I stand

DeJah: me in nature as one glowing. Yes. You said I

Joe: will be my fairy self. You said glowing pool. This is an outdoor thing, right? Yes, it's a natural, like lagoon. Natural. Natural. Okay. Not like a pre-made one, like

Jen: Yeah, no. All pools have lights, so no,

Joe: like slimer burny. Like, Hey, it's just a guy with a light just swinging it.

We, it

DeJah: guys, you're here. My God. Yeah. It's just

Joe: glow sticks.

Jen: Yeah. To rave party in the bull. So

Joe: it's the, it's the algae that glows. Is that, what is that?

Jen: Deja? You're up? I can,

Joe: yeah. Mm-hmm. But it's not like fish. Like you're not gonna see like a bright

DeJah: blue. You could bioluminescence exists in fish as well.

You can insert bioluminescence into mice, you can occupy like, it, uh, is a natural compound that can be replicated into other [00:09:00] animals. Um, so yeah, yeah, you should Google it glowing. The bioluminescent mice, they just glow in the dark. Nothing unnatural about that. Wow.

Joe: Predators are like, wow, easy. Okay.

DeJah: Yeah, yeah.

Joe: Like the opposite of an evolutionary advantage.

Jen: True, true. Yes. Yes.

DeJah: But, uh, yeah. Yeah. So

Jen: mean, it's, that's very cool. I just saw the pictures of the excursion. I was like, Ooh, glowing water. And I tell data and she obviously drops her scientific knowledge and her teacher voice, and I'm like, cool.

Glowing water.

Joe: Cool. Do you think we can get those drinks with a l in the bottom? Yeah.

DeJah: While

Jen: I'm in the

DeJah: bioluminescent pool? Yes. Yes.

Jen: Yeah. So we're doing that. Mm-hmm. And then we are doing, um, a, it's called seed to store excursion. Mm-hmm. So we go to the actual farm where they're glowing, growing, glowing, growing, all glowing and growing.

Um, all of the fun flour. Yep. And, um, then we actually get to. See the manufacturing part of it as well. Mm-hmm. And go into the, [00:10:00] the, I guess it's the lab. Yeah. Lab. Yeah. Because we gotta wear protective gear, like the booties, the hairnet, all the, the, you don't

Joe: mean like

Jen: flowers like. Do you mean flower weed, right.

Cannabis? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because

Joe: one sounded okay and one sounded really Borg, so yeah.

DeJah: I, no, because it's fully legal there now, it's fantastic that they've able to, you know, shift their tourism into not just, hey, a, a shady guy in a makeshift raft. Mm-hmm. Paddles up guy walking up while you're out in the ocean.

Right, right. To like. Hey, come visit our farm. We'll show you. It's like farm to table hemp, you know, THC, like, it's amazing. Yeah,

Jen: I laughed about this because for the Luminous Lagoon excursion, we. Are in a boat, in water. And we didn't have to sign a waiver, or at least not yet.

We haven't had to. However, signing up for the seed to store excursion, we absolutely had to sign a waiver that we wouldn't wear jewelry. That we, you know, we're, we're complying with all regulations to wear the, you know, the hair net, the food, the feet coverings, all that kind of stuff. Mm-hmm. Because it's

Joe: like they're plant.

DeJah: Right. Which made my heart sink. So I [00:11:00] was like, yes. This is the, you're not just walking into proper, proper handling of medicine. I'm. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe: Let me show you the lamps.

Jen: Yeah, yeah. No, and there's all kinds. 'cause I mean, you know, we were looking at, there's a lot of different excursions that some are more recreational based, right?

Mm-hmm. Like you're going on like a Sunset tour, you know, and they, they have the fun, like fun creative names for it, you know, like high sunset or whatever. Um, so you get to partake while you're, you know, enjoying sunset or rum drinks or whatever. So all it runs the gamut of, of the different ones that are offered.

That's what we have

DeJah: planned for sure. Also, also wanna get zip lining in there. 'cause I love to hurl my body off of things I do. I was, something's wrong with me guys. I just, I absolutely love that adrenaline rush of near death. Yeah. Yeah. Great. So we gotta do that. Yep. And I, yeah, if we horseback riding, it'd be great.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Especially if we could go full throttle. Yeah. Down the beach in America. I haven't know, but here, I mean in Jamaica maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I could sling some [00:12:00] US dollars. Make this happen. Yeah.

Jen: I think they have horseback riding, zip lining. Combos. Yes. That would be amazing. So great. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

We, um, so yes. Long, long answer to your question is that yes, we have things planned, but we also have plenty of Yeah. And then we have other days where we're just like, man, what to

Joe: swing

Jen: it.

Joe: Yep. I bet Since everything's legal there, that now they're gonna have all different kinds of ways to consume cannabis.

Is there anything you're particularly looking forward to trying

DeJah: I am. Most specifically looking forward to the flower itself, because that's, to me it's a spiritual communion for me. So it, it's literally like going to the mother planet. It would be the same thing if I was in Afghanistan. She's gonna hear me like chanting, like, yeah, it, I'm, I'm very much looking forward to the, the tour, um, because I, myself am.

Getting into the hemp industry, so it'll be educational for me. And also as a, as just a huge fan.[00:13:00]

Jen: I'm excited to learn. Like I think I'm, my naivety in the, the realm is, is definitely there. So I'm, I'm excited to learn from a very good source. Mm-hmm. A about it all. Um, and to see the creativity too, you know? Oh.

DeJah: To have Rastafarians educate you about a ganja. Are you kidding me? Yes. Yes, please. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Now if you want, you wanna go somewhere where they're gonna show you a plethora of just amazing super medicinal style options. That's Canada. Canada's got that locked down. Like I, it's gotta be so much easier if like, you have terrible symptoms. Even things like cancer, it's amazing.

They've got the, the dissolvable tabs. They've got the sprays, they've got every easy form to get it into your body. Besides all, the fun ways to cook it into delicious foods.

Jen: Yeah. And then we, we fly home and then we unpack just to repack and hedge a mountain for the 4th of July, so, [00:14:00]

Joe: yep.

Jen: . Cannot wait. That's kind of all we've been thinking about recently, which is why we're talking about it mm-hmm. For so long right now, but long overdue to have a vacation. I mean, we, we had our vacation to, uh, to Austin to ACL Fest. To last fall, which was a blast, but very different kind of vibe.

Mm-hmm. Um, so relaxation will happen with this one where it didn't so much in Austin. Oh no. I mean,

DeJah: that was just a go, go, go, go. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is going to be very fun. Very relaxing. And of course, a shout out to the all inclusive, every, you know, you don't have to worry about food, you don't have to worry about anything.

Yep. So we can be as

Jen: irresponsible as we want. And, and this is, stay at one. Play at both. Mm-hmm. Because there's two, we're staying outta sandals and there's two Sandals Resorts right there in Montego Bay. So they have little, a little shuttle that goes back and forth like every five minutes or so.

Um, because I think, not the one, I think Sandals Montego Bay, which is not the one we're staying at, um, has you could actually ski there. So Sandals really has real, like [00:15:00] the. Met the mark of all inclusive, because a lot of other resorts that say they're all inclusive, it doesn't include, um, motorized sports and Sandals does

DeJah: so if Sandals would like to sponsor us, right,

Jen: we would be more than happy.

Shout out Sandals. Sandals. And I just love like the Jamaican culture. Like Oh yeah. Everybody's just so like, who cares? You know? Like it's, we're you're here, have a good time, lay back. You know? Yeah. But that's just

DeJah: leaving America Fair. Like, I don't know, maybe not so much in like Russia or Germany. I don't know.

I've not, yeah, gone to Russia, but I, no, I don't know. Like maybe Germany, I don't know. But anywhere else I've been, I swear it's just, Hey, how's it going? No. Hey, how's it going? Do, but I'm like, that's just, yeah, yeah.

Joe: A mayor Mark away. Does Sandals have a casino? Are you guys gamblers? I don't gamble.

Jen: I don't gamble either.

I don't know. I know a resort, I say that to all inclusives that were [00:16:00] not sandals that did have a casino. One in Punana and one in St. Lucia. Uh, but I don't know if Sandals does or not, to be completely honest. It's a great question. No, I would gamble on things like.

DeJah: Lizard racing.

Joe: I feel like that's just you really high on a beach being like, all right, I got six on the, you're gambling, there's nobody else there. You're just throwing your money on, Liz. You're not far off at all.

DeJah: This is exactly like, yeah, like if we're just like, yep, okay. It was Jen comes over like, what bed on the blue one?

Bet on the yellow one. I'm like, I'm putting it down,

Joe: but not that lizard. There's no lizard. Yeah. I'd

DeJah: be like, I don't even think the lizard will exist, but my, my attention span to like sit down and like play poker, blackjack, or sit in front, no. No. I can't do it. Yeah. That, and I just don't like the idea of losing money.

If I wanna lose money, I'll do it myself doing something dumb. Yeah.

Jen: Or go on brilliant vacations. Yeah.

DeJah: But I, I'm gaining something out of that. That's a good investment. Mm-hmm. Self care. Friendship [00:17:00] com community and companionship. There you go.

Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so we'll see. It's gonna be a great time. Yep. Yes.

I'll let you know about the lizards. I'll let you know if that happens.

DeJah: I'll fall out if that actually does happen. That would be amazing.

Joe: Last time we went to the an all inclusive in The Bahamas, they were big lizards, you know, like that big, like you can't, it's an audio only podcast. Good job, Joe.

I'm doing approximately 24 to 28 inches with my hand. You know, like a guy who caught a fish on a dating profile like that big, they were freaky. That just looked like little dinosaurs, but they're slow.

DeJah: Oh yeah. I was in the Galapagos and they have the, the giant iguanas. Not all speed.

And they are, they're just giant, slow. Unless they're in the water, they're fast. Oh, that would be scary. They're fast in the water. Those giant iguanas. Now, if you were in the water, you see a big iguana swimming

Joe: towards you. Mm-hmm. Now pass. Mm-hmm.

DeJah: Yeah. I was, I it was great to say that I saw giant iguanas, boobies, the [00:18:00] bird.

You dirty pervs. Oh, my mind def, Nope. Yeah. Blue footed, boobies and penguins. Literally all in the same rock. All at all. All at the same time.

Jen: Fit.

DeJah: I mean,

Jen: I know bucket list check P went home for me, but alas, it could not happen little. They already tried to get me in customs span.

Oh goodness. Well, yeah. So we will, uh, whenever you guys are listening to this, we're gonna be sipping on a Bob Marley, which is a really fun drink. Um, so with that being said, Joe, I believe we have a voicemail if you wanna spin that. DJ Ricky.

Joe: Here

caller: we go. Hey ladies and Joe. Gotta give the recognition to Joe.

He's a man.

Joe: Oh, you got a fan? Yeah. He's literally the only

caller: man involved with you two at the moment. Anyway. Boom. Realistic. Good question for you. How come we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway? Just gotta get you guys' opinion on that, and I'm sure there's scientific answer or the people who name [00:19:00] things just messing with us anyway.

What are your thoughts?

DeJah: Blame the fucking British. Go on. Come on. Oh, this is English. It's, we're talking about the use of English and it's bizarre. Come on. We've talked about this. There are theirs. They're there, there, there, there. Parkway driveway. I'm sure it's up. I

Jen: wonder, if so, like we, I was, I wonder which one came first.

So if, so, if it was already taken and so we had to adopt another one, you know what I mean? So we it,

DeJah: which one sounds more bastardized? Because that would be the American version. Fair. Right. That makes sense.

Joe: Like the parkway was obviously the first we Exactly. And then we're like, we, we did the driveway.

Like we're not gonna call that.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah. And it, to me, just Parkway sounds more, a little bit more eloquent. So it was like, I could see that like maybe in Bri, in, in British culture that they say Parkway. Yes and yes,

DeJah: and I could absolutely see. [00:20:00] And I don't know why I wanna have a jersey accent, but I'm like, yeah, we're in a driveway, like in Boston.

I dunno where the hell that, but like Yeah, right driveway. I was like, oh, yes. That's the only everyone though,

Joe: because we, we, we recite lines in a play. Mm-hmm. And when you're, and you play at a recital, I mean, there's a, there's a bunch of these right? Stupid background things again? English.

Jen: Yeah. English.

Well, you know, and maybe it is the way that you, with the Boston accent, you can't say pcon to parkway. That doesn't sound right. You know, like that's a lot. Hence the driveway. Yeah. I will say I, well I'm thinking of like the Blue Ridge Parkway. Mm-hmm. But I was gonna say, I like parkways better than driveways for whatever that means, but Right.

Um, just, but that's in the mountains, so that's probably why. 'cause I know that there's parkways. I don't, like my dad lives in Connecticut and. He's on some sort of park or Parkway

DeJah: sim, literally meaning that we're As is driving through a parkway. Oh, because the Blue Ridge Mountains, it's the [00:21:00] park that we were driving through.

It's the

Jen: way through the park. Is Blue Ridge Park, is that Yeah, national. A national Park. Park, okay. Yeah. I was like, I didn't know if it was state or national. Is that, you know that. I have never thought about that before, but that is very, very. That seems logical and I really hope that that's the answer as, as opposed to our Boston accent reason over here.

Just feel

DeJah: little salty, be like, no, I hope it's a fucking British. Doesn't fucking blame

Jen: them. Wherever. Apologies for if we offended anyone from the uk.

DeJah: Um, go ahead and write in. I'll never see it. Yeah, no, I'll make sure

Jen: she

DeJah: does.

Jen: Um, that, that actually makes a lot of sense. So listener, I hope that, uh, I hope you're satisfied with that answer.

DeJah: However, and, and keep, keep an eye out if you feel that you're on a parkway. Look left. Look right. Are you in a park? This will help us assess. Yeah,

Jen: very true. Trying to think. Maybe because we're going to Colorado in August, so we'll be around some national parks. We'll have to, not that we're gonna be, we're not be [00:22:00] fucking driving though.

We're be Ubering. I will also be high.

I, I'm seeing a pattern for the places that we're going.

DeJah: Oh, a happy

Jen: deja

DeJah: makes a happy life. Yes.

Jen: Happy lifewise. Yes. Yeah. Uh, shoot. That's a good question.

DeJah: Yeah, but here's my question though. In England, do they actually call it. A driveway for where they park, where they park.

Joe: They probably call it like a, a boot library or so.

DeJah: You're absolutely correct. The boot thing kills me. I sometimes slap my dogs in the ass and tell 'em that I'm slapping their boot.

Jen: A boot library, would that just be a shoe store? Yeah, a boot library here? It would be, yes. Here

DeJah: it would be, again,

Joe: it would be a car manual in British.

Jen: Oh, why not? I mean, I wish the English language could get more complicated.

DeJah: It has, we've now again, bastardize it, cutting it down into our slang [00:23:00] that, oh my gosh. Like, so I had to tell my boys, I'm like, boys, we're gonna have to step up. The use of full words. I don't know what the fuck you're saying. Yeah. In your text messages, everything is in a code and siphon and no one, no one has given me the key.

I

Joe: don't

DeJah: have

Joe: the keys. No. A Jen Alpha speak. Oh yeah. Oh

Jen: my gosh. Well, but I don't

Joe: know any of it,

Jen: but even, you know, we've talked about online dating and stuff before, and so when, if somebody's like. I get a text from, I'm talking to gr well by number, A grown ass man by birth certificate. A grown ass man talking about WID question mark.

DeJah: Oh yeah, bitch. That

Jen: is three words and none of them are long. Like you can come on effort. See,

DeJah: When I would receive that, I would eloquently respond with multiple sentences asking them to elaborate

Jen: like they deja just drops a whole book.

DeJah: Because I want you to see right off the bat, the, uh.

Deviation and effort that's gonna occur in our relationship and

Jen: where we will not be. [00:24:00] Yeah. I saw, on Instagram recently where there was a gentleman who was speaking, I think might have been to high school. I would imagine it was the high schoolers given like the context and it was supposed to be very.

It was about like language and the evolution of language and, and how important it is to like, assimilate with languages for, you know, evolution of, uh, society. Like all these kinds of things. And so he, it was a, a very good like educational speak speech, but he was using gen alpha. Is that a thing? I think I actually saw that one too.

The gibby, blobbity blah, whatever, like, I don't know. And I was just like. I don't know. I, I You was there captions? Yeah, there were, thankfully there were, but I still was just like, I could still pick up on the context of what he was saying because of the other, sure. Stuff going on. Great. So

DeJah: now I have to feel like when I travel to another country and I don't know the language, same thing.

I'm picking up small little bit. I kind of understand what's happening here. No, that's just come on. What, why, why?

Jen: Yeah. It makes me sad. Sad. I mean, [00:25:00] and the, the video actually had reactions of all the kids in the crowd, you know, and they were, I mean, they were just eating it up, like laughing. If, if you, if it is the same video that you saw Joe, but that it was, it was entertaining to say the least and good on him because he obviously, this, this guy put like a lot of effort into making this resonate with his audience while also proving the point of what he was talking about.

So That's a good teacher. Yeah. Man. Your

DeJah: audience, man. Yep. Yeah. You wanna go back to it? They increase the pay.

Yeah. That part. Yeah. No, I loved, I loved being a teacher. I loved my kids, but , I love my life. Yeah. I love my life.

Jen: You love being financially stable. Yes. Yes. Yeah, [00:26:00] So recently had, uh, some family members that got just estate planning affairs mm-hmm.

In order documents. Um, thankfully nothing is, wrong, which doesn't need to be, I think this, that's point shout, that's, nothing

DeJah: should

Jen: be wrong. You should do it ahead of time. Obviously your firm sponsors our podcast. Mm-hmm. Thank you very much. Mm-hmm. Um, and you guys don't do the, the actual estate planning piece of it.

Correct. So, but the piece you [00:27:00] do help folks with is if there are, those documents aren't in place Sure. That's one of the things that we do. Yeah. Okay. And or if they are in place. Okay, so, mm-hmm. I know that you and I have talked about this multiple times, but I still in my brain and I have, legal career experience.

I still don't retain it. Mm-hmm. So can you kind of give us the very layman's term, dumbed down for us version of if you probate, and I know it's all about probate, but like, what does that mean or how are you helping people, or why is it important? Like all of that in a nutshell for what you guys do.

DeJah: One of my favorite lawyer jokes of all time is I Google it and everyone dies.

That's why I have state documents put together and you can have it buttoned up legally so that if you pass away, nothing will have to go through the government and an attorney can, um, just distribute it to you. Um, be it trust typically. Um, if you can also [00:28:00] have everything in order, if you have a will.

And, um, some accompanying documents and making sure that everything is titled correctly. You have beneficiaries listed for absolutely everything. And you can do that and not have to go through probate or state administration, which is where in the government steps in and reviews the estate. , So there's government oversight.

If. Everything isn't in an order where there is no delegation of an asset, meaning it's already delegated somewhere. So like I said, all of your beneficiaries are listed. No one has to know about it because everybody's already in order, right? It's usually a car. Uh, you can have a will, you can have it all lined up, but your car may be titled just in your name, and that'll open probate.

Yeah, now have to go through the county, whatever county that, uh, you resided in, not where you passed. 'cause you can obviously pass [00:29:00] elsewhere. Yeah. But you can also have nothing, no documents. And then of course everything is gonna have to go through the courts, um, in order to then be passed to all of the heirs or beneficiaries.

So. are wild dynamic examples of, oh, we just need to help you with, Gertrude's car. You gotta get that Cadillac title. Old Gertrude titles ur, right? It's going go into the 17-year-old granddaughter. Fantastic, right? Or you, our, uh, a super wealthy hoarder. That, uh, or not super wealthy before?

I mean, we, we, yeah. I mean we, there's some situations where there's a millions and millions of dollars that need to find a home mm-hmm. That need to find their legal home. Or there's a millions of dollars we found that are outta state. Other state assets. That's one thing people don't realize. Like if, if you don't hire a professional to handle a loved one's estate I'm not talking about your spouse, [00:30:00] right?

You should probably have a pretty I good idea what's going on with your spouse. Fingers crossed. But if you have a, a relative that, lived in another state, they had a life, they've probably got investments, they may have properties, they, it is. Wildly dynamic, the things that people own.

You can own mineral rights in Louisiana, right? Sure. That's fun to untangle. That's a whole unique, crazy prayer parish process. I mean, so, so the moral of this story is try to get your documents in order, getting a will put together. Has nothing to do with you perishing in the immediate. It does have to do with taking care of your loved ones so that they don't have to suffer more than they're already going to suffer because of your loss.

No, I have heard people that are like, fuck it. Let 'em fight. Yeah. God bless. A hundred. A hundred, right?

Joe: I think Taylor Swift has a song about that, right? Oh yeah. [00:31:00]

DeJah: Yes. Vengeance be mine. But that was, that's person's wishes. So honestly, like you're honoring their wishes. Yeah.

Um, you wanna, screw your family over and donate everything to the A-S-P-C-A. Go on with your bad self. You can do whatever you want. And that's part of the beauty of actually taking control and setting up. What's going to happen is you actually gain more control. You don't realize you lose full control if you don't, designate where your property, where your monies that you've worked your entire life to build where they're gonna go.

I like knowing what's gonna happen. And peace of mind is where it's at. Yeah. So, and I,

Jen: and just kind of disclaimer, deja is not an attorney, so everything she just said is not legal advice. Um, it's just procedurally kind of effective experience. Exactly. Being in the, yeah. And being knowledgeable about how this works.

Advice would be if I asked you, well, should I do this in my will or whatever. Um, so just wanna throw that out there. Yeah. A disclaimer. I am

DeJah: not an attorney. Yes. I repeat, [00:32:00]

Jen: I'm not an attorney. We did our first full episode, we had your business partner, attorney Kara Williams on. Yes. Um, and so she, you guys did go in more and tell you Yes.

What to

DeJah: do. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And it's very,

Jen: very

DeJah: good

Jen: at

DeJah: it. Yeah.

Jen: And with these documents, I mean, they can be pretty much kind of as simple or complex as mm-hmm. They need to be, right, correct. Or to match you or someone wants them to be, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

DeJah: Do you have, do you have a, a vast amount of legacy that you have built?

Uh, or is it, pretty simple and I either or having that taken care of and lined up so that it is, again it's just about unburdening your family and whoever is going to have to take care of that. 'cause someone will have to take care of it.

Jen: And really thinking, I just, you know, thinking of examples in my life there, EEI, fortunately so far in my life, have not had to work through somebody's mm-hmm.

Wishes, but others in my life have, and I, you know, some, the person passed away and even in their will, and it was just like, [00:33:00] okay, well. My three kids figure it out, you know? Mm-hmm. And so not putting more detailed parameters in place of like exactly who has, who's the tiebreaker if the other two are on opposite sides of the fence or something like that.

So, um, because whenever you're. You know, in that, like you were saying, I mean the, that grief and loss stage you're tired. Usually you're not sleeping because you're tan, trying to take care of all the other arrangements that need to happen, paying for that. Um, where's that all gonna come then what's gonna happen to all of this?

And, and then on top of that, yeah. And

DeJah: that's where like, it's unfortunate, but the like paying part. And an attorney can help you so that you may probably shouldn't be paying. Yeah, you should. What you should be doing is just gathering information. People start doing that, right? There are some people, like people like us type A people who like to get things taken care of and we're trying to be very helpful.

When the reality is no, we just gotta take a step back. Nobody's coming after you. Nobody's coming after you.

Jen: Yeah.

DeJah: Just take a breather and it's totally okay to actually grieve. [00:34:00] Yep. Take a month, take two months then send Kara CARA, nnc state solutions.com. An email and just see what help you need.

Yeah. That's what we like to do.

Jen: And I think, think when you mentioned earlier, like out of state. I mean all of like my mom's sisters and my grandfather, I mean, you know, they all lived in the Midwest. Mm-hmm. And so, you know, when, when my grandfather did pass, you know, my, well my one aunt lived in Texas, the other one still lives in the Midwest.

And then obviously we live here in North Carolina. And so then it was that piece of like, do we hurry up and make all of this happen, you know, while we've got the time from work and you know, and all that kind of stuff. And so what I hear you saying is. That you can, you can take the time to take a step back.

It doesn't all have to be done like boom, boom, boom, boom. Like figure it out. And to a certain extent, I don't think it really even can. Mm. I mean, it's kind of gotta go through the process. No, and

DeJah: especially the one thing you should do is just if you see something, get notification, get a call, just [00:35:00] notify that.

Just say they've passed. Right. Just no. That, that's all, all you have to do to start is just start No, no. They've passed. Right? You've got mail. Call 'em. Just let 'em know they passed and they'll just change everything into the estate of Right. And then you can start the process. But there is no, no rush.

Take care of your heart. Take care of your head. Um, because ob most people needed to have, have to take care of others around them. Yep. You know, including themselves. Exactly. And,

Jen: and the other event, give. NNC Estate Solutions a call.

DeJah: Mm-hmm. And imagine it can help remind you of these things. Imagine having it all planned out and really it takes less time to put together your estate documents.

All the, the time that you would meet with an attorney, the time to get everything, you know, edited and signed. You could, would plan a vacation really the amount of hours, amount of time that you put in to do that. If you'd put the time into plan a vacation, you could. Put the time in, into have everything lined up.

You want a Lal party [00:36:00] well put down. You want a Lal party, right? You wanna go with a bang? I, um, I'm gonna give a shout out to Renaissance Funeral Home. I, I love how they will absolutely cater to the wishes of the pa the deceased. Literally like there wa they did have a gentleman who wanted to be propped up.

And we a party style in his lawn chair. Absolutely. A hundred not in a casket. Uhuh, Nope. Lou else. Part of the party. Party. Party. Part of the party. And they did paranormal party. They absolutely did. And his family was so grateful because they fulfilled his dying wishes. Yeah. You, you want to make absolutely certain that little shit of a nephew that just rubbed his boogers on your couch doesn't receive anything from you.

Joe: Give him the couch,

DeJah: give him the couch. Right. I mean, you, again, you, you get to decide. Yeah. And then there aren't [00:37:00] decisions that have to be made by others for you. Mm-hmm. In a time of. Absolute sorrow. And the same goes for having powers of attorneys drafted. Typically, when you draft your will, you have powers of attorney drafted as well.

And like you said about if you have kids, instead of going, ah, figure out where the kids go, you actually have a document that lines up who would be a guardian to your child or children. Yeah. So that, again, that doesn't become an issue because car accidents happen. Yep. You know. Like both parents, both bio parents can be Yes, exactly.

You don't think when you're young that things can happen. But unfortunately we see it all the time on the news. We live in a country of mask shootings. Um, we, that part too, literally, there's, there's nothing that you can guarantee. So the only thing that you can guarantee is having your documents in order, and like I said, unburdening, but also.

I, I, for me, it's a sense of control and peace of mind. [00:38:00] It's all done. Yeah.

Jen: Yeah, I think, and I know you guys don't do the, the estate planning part. Mm-hmm. But I think even if somebody were to reach out to you guys, you guys would have a good referral for to work with. Oh, we have, because we a

DeJah: host of estate planning attorneys, because relationship matters.

Mm-hmm. Trust matters

Jen: and a lot of estate planners. Don't like to do the probate side, which is why it's such a beautiful relationship for you guys. Exactly.

DeJah: We pass it to them, they don't because probate is a pain in the ass. It can take a long time. The court system will move at its own speed. Even with e courts.

Do not think that estates is sped up. It's not. Yep. It still, it just is. It's a, it's, yeah. It's nothing that can be hurried. And it must be done in exact and orderly fashion. Every document must be exact. If it is a penny off, it is returned. It must be redundant. It just is for some

Jen: reason.

You love it. Yeah, that's,

DeJah: I mean, I, I guess I love math, but like, I love math. I know. I, it's. It kind [00:39:00] of like leans into the, my personality of like, where's the greatest help needed? Yeah. And also I, like, I don't mind a fight. So like in a fin shirt, she in the courthouse. Insurance company doesn't, you know, they don't, they don't wanna pay, they don't always stocks.

They don't wanna transfer.

Jen: Yeah. And I think the, and with like the estate, the earlier part in that, and a goal of working with an attorney I think as well, is that you or, or you know, a team, a legal team is, they're there to also. Ask you the questions that you're not thinking about. Yes. You know, like so many times we don't think about accounts and passwords or, um, access to bank accounts should something happen mm-hmm.

For bills that need to be paid, like all of these logistics that you don't think about. And I know that that's what my family faced whenever we lost some folks, you know, a few years ago. And so my parents came back from that and we're like, started in a notebook, like to start writing everything down and, and did what they needed to do with bank accounts so that then we weren't faced with that.

But there's, it's so many times that it's retroactive like that. 'cause you don't know what you don't know. And that's what the attorney is there to ask you those questions to make you think about those things. Man,

DeJah: [00:40:00] It's standard up. We, we get a case. We help either. So to go all the way back to beginning my conversation, there's test state and in test state, not testes,

meaning you have a will or you don't have a will. So if you have a will, you have an executor. If you don't have a will, you'd have an administrator that's assigned. Um, and. That I got testis on my mind. Yeah,

Joe: I was trying to come up with a joke with dropping the will, but yeah, couldn't get the half formed.

DeJah: Um, but a anyway, cycle back to, uh, it's just couldn't get the thought up.

Joe: Nice. I should have been on the, uh, man, how do I loop a mosquito in there now? Hold on. Wait, hold on. I gotta find it. Nailed it.

Jen: Hey man, we have gone from, uh, from testes to intestine. Yeah. Um, the moral,

DeJah: moral of the story is [00:41:00] if you have assets or if you have kids, I.

Get your paperwork done. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm. And again, we have a, a whole host because we have some of the best tax attorneys who are also estate planning attorneys, so if you have businesses mm-hmm. Right? That's the kind of person that you want, right? You needs you, if it gives you a shit ton of anxiety and you haven't been able to do it because it gives you shit, tons of anxiety.

Thinking about your mortality. We have. The most granola hold your hand, wrap you in a warm blanket. She just crocheted referral like we, we've got somebody for, for you. Love that. And we, again, like you don't know what it is until you have to deal with it. All of those family, family members that become administrators that become executors, we then end up referring them for their, to get their documents done because they have learned that they don't want it to happen to their kids.

Yeah. To their nieces, nephews, to their right. So that's, [00:42:00] yeah. So again, that referral business a hundred percent. Oh, absolutely. State planning attorneys will take all your probate. Right. And we will send you, yes.

Jen: Yeah. Well, and I, you know, I don't wanna go too far. I don't wanna go into the family law rabbit hole, but I heard the attorneys say time and time again that if you.

Have a will and you got a divorce, revisit that will oh hundred to make sure that you update the beneficiaries. The old horror story and the ex-wife

DeJah: inherits everything.

Jen: Yeah. Yeah.

DeJah: So

Jen: plug there for the family law side, so Yes, yes. Um, awesome. Well man, buddy, we're gonna wrap this one up 'cause we've gone from dangling exposed dongs in Jamaica to death.

But we circled back to testes. We did, yes. We probably brought it.

DeJah: Yes, we did. Circle, full

Jen: circle. Full circle, full circle. Look at us go.

Joe: If nothing, we bookend in this show.

Jen: That's great. That's right. But is it, is it a boot library bookend? I don't know. All right. I'm now gonna call all garages. Boot libraries.

Boot libraries. Yes. Yeah, I don't have one. Um, anyway. Well guys, thanks for tuning in. Of course. To [00:43:00] another very random fun-filled across the spectrum. Podcast episode here. caller, listener, thank you so much for, for your question and as always, thank you. Thank you. Um, and please feel free.

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